olyclimber

http://time.com/3898371/alex-honnold-dean-potter-climbing/ http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1122068/CLIMB-and-PUNISHMENT-An-Open-Telegram-to-Alex-Honnold a couple links to throw some gas to the fire

just need to get some acid

Thanks for sharing this info. I actually, like your way of expressing the opinions and sharing the information.

Who are the geologists on here? @G-spotter

Looks like alphabet soup

Found in SE AK.

just going to have to agree to disagree there. you are picking and choosing what is related and connected to support your argument...that or you are completely missing the point: no matter what your path in life, there will be risks. as @Choada_Boy link shows, there is even risk in sitting on your ass and doing nothing all day. and people will not stop making "stupid" decisions just because you told them to. who in the hell thinks paragliding is a smart thing to do you adrenaline fueled risk junkie! it also seems like you are over investing in the idea that you are somehow in control in the self-will of others, or that they are particularly interested in your assessment of the risks they take. I know I'm personally doing so by continueing this conversation with you! It has been a very thoughtful and interesting to see different points of view on the topic. in this country in particular, self-will and individual choice are bedrock to the human psyche. any affront to this is usually not received well.

A bit of levity: The story of David Lee Roth in Yosemite.... https://www.thoughtco.com/rocker-david-lee-roth-skyscraper-3972248 http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=78334&tn=0&mr=0 paging @kevbone

you also usually don't hear of climbing being classified as text book addiction though. the whole "died doing what they love" thing...well that i think depends on your outlook on life and death. as has been pointed out several times in this thread already, life is fatal. we all go, and most of us don't get to choose when or why. "died doing what they love" is something not something that dead people say...its what the survivors say when they are trying to cope with the loss of a friend or a loved one. it just sounds better than the alternative. it does seem a bit silly, but people cope how they can. What will you do when the Risk Gestapo show up to take away your paragliding equipment because someone else deemed it too dangerous a sport?

@Water yes we will! I think we just need to make the tools to do it. We actually had something simliar before, but I think we can make it better than what we had. And I think we just need help in cleaning up the trip reports in general. Where they are missing pictures, can we get the pictures back in? I've actually been able to manually fix a few really good TRs.

I imagine getting drunk could fit under denial.

cheamclimber

https://dps.alaska.gov/dailydispatch/Home/Display?dateReceived=3/14/2018 12:00:00 AM Location: Mendenhall Ice Field Type: Search and Rescue Dispatch Text: UPDATE: On 3/13/2018, weather cleared and search assets were able to be deployed. The chartered Coastal helicopter, with Juneau Mountain Rescue members on board, was able to reach the north face of the Mendenhall Towers. An intact anchor rope was seen at the top of an ice shoot on the 4th Tower. Two climbing ropes were also seen in a crevasse midway down the 4th Tower. The ropes match the description of the gear carried by Johnson and Leclerc. Due to the circumstances, Johnson and Leclerc are presumed deceased. Due to continuing significant avalanche danger and safety hazards, recovery efforts are not feasible at this time. Next of kin for Johnson and Leclerc have been notified. Missing person files have been entered into the missing persons clearing house for both Johnson and Leclerc. The Alaska State Troopers would like to thank our search and rescue partners along with businesses and member of the community that donated food and supplies to support the volunteer search personnel.

And there is this....ropes found: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/marc-andre-leclerc-dead-1.4575601

As I understand it, they have called off the search for now. His father is making the presumption, which speaks to the probabilities. No parent wants to give up home for their beloved missing child.

https://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/

this is a well written article about Marc https://gripped.com/news/canadian-marc-andre-leclerc-has-passed-away-at-24/

The GoFundme page (https://www.gofundme.com/592fn8w)is now updated with this message: It is with great sadness we update this page tonight. Marc’s dad sends this personal message below. “To all of our friends near and far who have been supporting us and praying for Marc André I wanted you all to hear it from me first hand before it’s in the news. Sadly we have lost 2 really great climbers and I lost a son I am very proud of. Thank you for the support during this difficult time. My heart is so broken...Part of me is gone with him... Our family appreciates all of your prayers and we would like to ask for a time of privacy as we come to grip with these devastating developments... Marc-André was an amazing, loving man and he has touched many lives in so many ways. He will be remembered and loved forever. I know he is with our Lord and I will be with him again one day. ❤️”All support for this page will now go to the family and Marc’s partner Brette to manage and deal with the multitude of items they now have in front of them. As well as much needed respite and closure costs. Thank you to everyone for all your messages and contribution. Our community is strong and we will get though this as a loving collective. Our gratitude goes to the Juneau Mountian rescue for all the effort and care they gave to search. I received this message from a mentor of Marc’s tonight. Speaks to who Marc was for so many. “I gotta say, I loved that young guy, almost like my kids. his energy and enthusiasm were unparalleled, and infectious. his skills were amazing, of course, but that wasn't what made MA special - it was his ability to 'see' possibilities where no one else could even begin to imagine.”Arcteryx Marc’s sponsor has been by the families side and doing everything possible to help. Thank you Justin and John. Please do not send news inquires to me. All inquires should be sent to John Irvine John.irvine@arcteryx.com he has been appointed as spokesperson for the family. Please also see Ryan’s page and support Ryan son Milo, who will need our support and love. https://www.gofundme.com/ryanandmiloNathan and I have created this page to help support Marc’s family and friends and his partner Brette travel to Alaska to search for Marc Andre Leclerc and Ryan Johnson. Both climbers did not return as planned from their climb in the mountains on Monday. As the days go on the need increases to help with search efforts, travel expenses and bills that need to be covered as they are away from home. Today Juneau Mountian search and rescue managed to get up in the air. We are waiting for word and are so very thankful for their commitment and hard work. See article below from local news. Search and rescue officials are looking for two experienced climbers who are overdue to return from a climbing trip in Juneau. George "Ryan" Johnson, a 34-year-old Juneau man, and Marc-Andre Leclerc of British Columbia were dropped off near the Mendenhall Towers on Juneau's Mendenhall Ice Field on Sunday, Alaska State Troopers said in a written statement. The two men last communicated with family and friends Monday after climbing to the top of the towers. They had planned to return to Juneau via the West Mendenhall Glacier Trail by Wednesday evening. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.adn.com/alaska-news/2018/03/08/search-and-rescue-underway-for-2-men-on-juneaus-mendenhall-ice-field/%3foutputType=amp-type Please help with what ever you can. We are a connected outdoor community who can, these men are our men. Thank you for caring and making a difference.Your contribution will help in many ways right now. I am updating this page daily as I receive them. Thank you for your love, prayers and support. Nathan and Treya G7

Miss you Mark, and miss your wit. Hope you are well.

Truly one of the great minds living has passed. We all do. Here is to the next scientist who makes such a contribution!

on the plus side, the best climbers in Mexico will soon be Americans. So thats a sold win.

It could or should have been any of us. We're all lucky to be here.