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Sorry jay, you're on your own cloud with that train of thought. But carry on the coversation... I'm interested as to where it will take you. It's a lot of theoretical talk you're on too if you think anything was prevented by the torture, and plenty to suggest the it served well in our enemies recruitment.

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Yeah. To train for this ride the guy had to put a firehose in his mouth while getting kicked in the stomach by donkeys.

Sweet John, is that your new WOTD?

You might want to hold off on bottle feeding your infant with that stuff, as they might become a degenerate.

Here is yet another case: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1080182.cms

Well, the point is you might want to hold off on feeding that stuff to your dog.

Absinthe makes you crazy and criminal, provokes epilepsy and tuberculosis, and has killed thousands of people. It makes a ferocious beast of man, a martyr of woman, and a degenerate of the infant, it disorganizes and ruins the family and menaces the future of the country.

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In the bigger picture, what about the impact on those we are asking to do this work, what is it to them? Someone has to do it. Torture is a methodical, sadistic operation performed face to face with the enemy strapped down and defenseless. Dropping a bomb from a high flying plane, or maneuvering and sending a missile in with a drone controlled half way across the world is much different. This is how warefare has been modernized. But even back in the old days of hand to hand combat only there was a distinction between warfare and torture. Heck, we have rules about "cruel and unusual punishment" for our own citizens, don't we? Why do you think that is? FWIW here is the glib comment you've been waiting for: I leave the glib comments for you. They seem to be your specialty.

In other news http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124225891527617397.html "The Obama administration's new drug czar says he wants to banish the idea that the U.S. is fighting "a war on drugs," a move that would underscore a shift favoring treatment over incarceration in trying to reduce illicit drug use. In his first interview since being confirmed to head the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, Gil Kerlikowske said Wednesday the bellicose analogy was a barrier to dealing with the nation's drug issues. "Regardless of how you try to explain to people it's a 'war on drugs' or a 'war on a product,' people see a war as a war on them," he said. "We're not at war with people in this country.""

there is a big difference between pulling a lever and dropping a bomb vs. torture.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009213634_accident13m.html "There were so many different crime scenes that an hour or two after the incident began, Seattle police spokesman Mark Jamieson said, that police were "still counting" exactly how many victims were involved." ""He drove off yelling, 'Woo hoo!,' " she said, adding that he also thrust his middle finger in the air." "Finally, in the 3900 block of Sixth Avenue South, the man slammed head-on into the semi-truck." geez, seems like the guy had a bad day

Wow...thats quite a story Jared. I'm glad you got down OK. Hope you recover soon. Tib/fib breaks aren't fun, but if your ligaments are ok, you'll be back on the rock soon.

i'm more disappointed in the people who decided to litter the mountain with their bodies. what I want to see is a Euro style cross at the top. Also, some sort of recycle bin at the summit for prayer flags.