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Don't you mean the Perry Creek Road?

Because the local climbers are pussies?

That Dwayner climbs 5.13... or could if he chose to.

I think only the ones with the dog.

You argument is the aesthetic one. Every crack is different and each crack can be protected in any number of ways. It puts an element of variety and a sense of discovery into each climb. Now bolts...well a bolt is a bolt is a bolt.

Yes, as Chongo put it, Americans have the government they deserve, even though you Canadians never did anything to deserve it.

Here's another view of the same climb. Looks protectable to me.

I was having fun reading through old guidebooks lent to me by Roboboy and comparing old descriptions to newer ones. Of course many routes that were aid went free. Usually the rating went up but sometimes it went down, either due to sticky rubber soles or cleaning of the route. A few examples follow: Orbit (1965), 5.8/ A3, 33 pitons, 4 bolts Orbit (1996) 5.8+, four stars, Pro to 3" Remorse (1965), 5.7/ A2, 40 pitons, 5 bolts Remorse (1996), 5.8, two deathheads ®, Pro to 3" White Slabs (1965), 5.9, 12 pitons White Slabs (1996), 5.7, Pro to 2" White Fright (1965), 5.7/ A4, 20 pitons White Fright (1996), 5.9+, one star, Pro to 2" Saber (1965), 5.3 Saber (1996), 5.4 Saber (2004), 5.5

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending religion. I am just saying that people who are religious don't take the global view that you do. They don't really care about its benefits for society, but rather are driven by a desire for personal salvation. The need for religion is deeply selfish, just like the need to procreate.

I'm thinking "hey 15 gig isn't so big", then I go, "oh, 15 meg! Timewarp!"

That is what can best be described as a Gilliganism.

You may not see any benefit in religion, but clearly there must be a benefit, otherwise it would not be as popular as it is.

I really like this quote: (Arvin)"Isn't theoretical physics, in it's attempt to explain the universe, just another religion? (Chongo) "What? Religion is stating assertions. Science is the pursuit of truth. Religion is the pursuit of a particular preference of truth, that which benefits the devotee." That last sentence is the most succinct and yet thorough expression I have ever seen of what religion is.

Mostly Dru is right. One can get headaches from lack of caffeine, but it only takes a day or two to adjust. I might just add (and I think that Twight pointed this out) by using caffeine sparingly in day to day living, it will have more of a kick during climbs when you really need it.

Not more diurectic, but the result would be a less hydrated state. Yes there is, and there are also two related substances, the dimethylxanthines theobromine (also found in chocolate) and theophylline, which is used to treat asthma.

Roasting is part of the dealie since some caffeine goes up the chimney during the roasting process, but more due to the fact that "gourmet" (arabica) coffee is balanced in acidity and lower in caffeine from the getgo a different bean than more common (Robusta) canned coffees which are higher in caffeine and acidity. *Sorry for the digression. Caffeine has a negligible volatility. I doubt any is lost in that way. It could be lost through pyrrolysis, or oxidation however.

I agree that you will never need to post again, but I believe you will continue to post, regardless.

Right, who needs friends when you have everything you need right there in your bong?

What is your secret, human growth hormone, or platform shoes?

You should have rented a bulldozer.

You have to have a lead card before you can lead in the gym. Unless you already have enough experience to pass their test (which isn't much), you'd have to take their leading class.

Right, you are good for at least the three seconds it takes to impact with the car in front of you.

Anyone notice that a certain trad master has just given in to the Dark Side of the Force? I'll take credit or er... blame along with John.

And what would be the name of said establishment?

This is the Rockclimbing Forum, not spray. Give the guy some decent advice or shut up. Exit 38 is a good choice. There are fewer easy routes to be found at Exit 32. Go visit www.northbendrock.com. The Gritscone is a crag at the Far Side of exit 38 that is a good place to start sport leading.