Bill's point is that if you bother to track down Dwayner's references they don't support his assertion that religious beliefs are NOT behind a majority of killings in war and persecution. I made the original assertion and I pulled it straight out of my ass. If you consider that the pogroms of Stalin were not religiously motivated, then probably my argument goes down the drain. Stalin killed more people by far than any single monster in the history of mankind, including Hitler.