billcoe

Holy crap, what a story. If I had one I'd loan it out to you for sure, Haydar suffered a similar injury (nasty tib-fib break) and will most likely be needing it not long after you finish with it if not sooner. Wow! You're like 4 months into this thing.

Wish I had sound!

This kind of internet shit talkin ain't good for climbers as a group, even if raging like a 4 year old makes Andrew (or anyone) personally feel good. This was a leader of men, who's life was lived around collaboration and yet he was not going into this hole. I fully understand Jim A's feelings. This is just sad. Why even bother trying or sharing a damn thing here for any of you? Step up and share it in person sure, but this internet raging stuff is total bullshit. I'm done posting on this thread, it's a bad thing and you dudes have way too many needless bad vibes. Good by! opps, edited to have a picture of the rock in question so you guys can remember what you are all upset about and maybe it will calm you down. LOL! PS, TT Steve, you seem like a righteous dude and that's a damn good point. My wife drug home one of your antique pieces of Chinese furniture from Bend while back (you transferred it to the NW PDX store). My boy and I stuffed a 47" widescreen High def TV in there. Good stuff.

Hi David! Sorry to see you go but my inner gear whore is happy! Not sure where you are at, but let me know if this stuff is still available. *I'll take all of the Red Heliums and if the clear ones look OK I'll take those too if they are not spoken for. *I'll take the 2 shorty screamers. * 2 of the AMD locking biners if they have the Triactlock gate. I'll PM you or you PM me with the details....I'll have CASH!!!!!! WOOT! *cough* I mean, sorry to see you go.....

Schweet! You should Utube this as it would be a total gnar thing to do and be a rad vid.

You mean there's a way to do this with Billcoe? ha ha !

Nice! South of Darrington? You guys get any sunshine at all?

You can only pick one. A) Brotherhood. B) Jews. Not too hard to choose. No choice and not picking isn't a choice.

It probably goes without saying, but it would be nice if some of the totally needless savaging, bitching and whining that goes on online about Beacon and from mostly Beacon climbers would just stop. The management gave us the forum cause this group in particular seemed to always get carried away yelling at each other for no good reason on all kinds of other forums. I had asked him for help on the keeping the Beacon open thing and he was not interested at all. In fact he wanted to totally avoid all the needless petty little sniping and backbiting this group seems to bring: but in his response turning me down I think Jim Anglin said it best when he suggested that what we all needed was to take a road trip and climb at a few other areas in the winter and spring instead of just sitting by our computers and bitching about things which really don't matter. BTW: The 2nd 2 are damn nice photos Steve!

Top Gear presenter Hammond had asked why anyone would buy a Mexican car during a discussion of a Mexican sports model, the Mastretta. "Cars reflect national characteristics don't they?," he said. "Mexican cars are just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat." Opps, those rascally Brits: time to apologize to the Mexican ambassador. Dohh! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110204/od_nm/us_britain_mexico_dd;_ylt=AiheQOI65s_7VbH1MtwTJ9.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFmNTM2bjhoBHBvcwMyMDEEc2VjA2FjY29yZGlvbl9vZGRfbmV3cwRzbGsDYmJjZGVmZW5kc3F1

As you aren't going to spill the whole can of beans we'll have to let our imaginations run crazy:-) That there indicates some real potential for kinkiness. I'm imagining some 151 Bacardi Gold was involved. She must be off the hook crazy. 8D

Damn Ivan. Looks like you initiated the bitchfest. Sadly, the only way to make it stop is to quit responding online. Just stop. This shouldn't be online, but an in person thing. Delete the topo off this site and let people ask you for it. You already offered to climb it with Pink, either you go out together and do it or this goes for 20 more fucking stupid assed pages. (I'm excluding Timetravelers posts from that statement) fuck all you whiners and bitchers. Get off the internet and go climb the thing.

There ya go! Can't buy that kind of thing (usually). I'd take him up on that offer!

Sons of Yesterday

Yeah, we know. That's why they wear cotton or wool in the military. What the heck happened to you though? That looks damn painful. Hope it didn't get on your face. BTW, Mythbusters recently did this test where they used pepper spray and an tazer to see if they could ignite someone. I didn't see the whole show, but do know that the police have torched a couple folks. The choice of clothing played a roll, with fleece and some other synthetic being the least flame resistant. They used a dummy wire rack in place of actual flesh like you seem to have done. Ouch!

Yeah, they wouldn't play this one:-) Imagine. [video:youtube] ..and this vegetarian ad: [video:youtube]

I had expected someone to have suggested your house by now. Disappointing group here, maybe they don't know what a Gloryhole is so that can't recommend one? Gloryhole, hope this helps

Do it. Dare ya.

Get one that doesn't crash all the time. The blue screen of death is a bitch.http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1002239/gonew/1/Laptop_Advice#UNREAD Check Craigslist for stolen ones yet?

Tough to win against the opposition as Soros is running for that job. Here's his take from a Washington Post op-ed piece today: "Why Obama has to get Egypt right By George Soros Thursday, February 3, 2011 Revolutions usually start with enthusiasm and end in tears. In the case of the Middle East, the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. Although American power and influence in the world have declined, our allies and their armies look to us for direction. These armies are strong enough to maintain law and order as long as they stay out of politics; thus the revolutions can remain peaceful. That is what the United States should insist on while encouraging corrupt and repressive rulers who are no longer tolerated by their people to step aside and allow new leaders to be elected in free and fair elections. That is the course that the revolution in Tunisia is taking. Tunisia has a relatively well-developed middle class, women there enjoy greater rights and opportunities than in most Muslim countries, and the failed regime was secular in character. The prospects for democratic change are favorable. Egypt is more complex and, ultimately, more influential, which is why it is so important to get it right. The protesters are very diverse, including highly educated and common people, young and old, well-to-do and desperately poor. While the slogans and crowds in Tahrir Square are not advancing a theocratic agenda at all, the best-organized political opposition that managed to survive in that country's repressive environment is the Muslim Brotherhood. In free elections, the Brotherhood is bound to emerge as a major political force, though it is far from assured of a majority. Some have articulated fears of adverse consequences of free elections, suggesting that the Egyptian military may seek to falsify the results; that Israel may be adamantly opposed to a regime change; that the domino effect of extremist politics spreading to other countries must be avoided; and that the supply of oil from the region could be disrupted. These notions constitute the old conventional wisdom about the Middle East - and need to be changed, lest Washington incorrectly put up resistance to or hesitate in supporting transition in Egypt. ad_icon That would be regrettable. President Obama personally and the United States as a country have much to gain by moving out in front and siding with the public demand for dignity and democracy. This would help rebuild America's leadership and remove a lingering structural weakness in our alliances that comes from being associated with unpopular and repressive regimes. Most important, doing so would open the way to peaceful progress in the region. The Muslim Brotherhood's cooperation with Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who is seeking to run for president, is a hopeful sign that it intends to play a constructive role in a democratic political system. As regards contagion, it is more likely to endanger the enemies of the United States - Syria and Iran - than our allies, provided that they are willing to move out ahead of the avalanche. The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves. Fortunately, Obama is not beholden to the religious right, which has carried on a veritable vendetta against him. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community. The main danger is that the Obama administration will not adjust its policies quickly enough to the suddenly changed reality. I am, as a general rule, wary of revolutions. But in the case of Egypt, I see a good chance of success. As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East. I hope President Obama will expeditiously support the people of Egypt. My foundations are prepared to contribute what they can. In practice, that means establishing resource centers for supporting the rule of law, constitutional reform, fighting corruption and strengthening democratic institutions in those countries that request help in establishing them, while staying out of those countries where such efforts are not welcome. The writer is chairman of the Soros Fund Management and the Open Society Foundations, which support democracy and human rights in more than 70 countries. " Good chance of success that the Lion will lay down with the lamb he says, and he'll put some money in the pot to make it happen. He says.

I did stop posting that, figured it was possibly a disservice to my local bricks and mortar store Climbmax.

Remarkable story, looks like you can stay with Mad Rock Off. http://climbxgear.com/approachshoes.aspx

Uhhh, you gots to read the posts Andrew. "The Zion" That's the name for the Gecko, I thought you had some great names but ya don't win nothin'....now wake up and start slinging shit or you'll be ostracized for your complacency. Yo dudes, I understand that that's how Climbx came to have happened. Mad Rock chose to move production to Vietnam to keep costs down, and Joe Garland decided to leave them and have the old factory manufacture shoes under his new label. Tough titty, now rock climbers have 2 low cost shoe options and a bunch more stuff on the way as well....whah whah whah. If you all don't want to pay $60 for what appears to be a decent pair of shoes, that's fine, we can all chose to support with our wallets. Keep buying LaSportivas for $160 a pair if you wish. I probably have @ 11 pairs of rock shoes in the basement, and if a pair or 2 of ClimbX's wind up in that pile down there I might not even notice it. I got Imelda Marcos genes in here somewhere I bet. The folks I feel for are the guys at Climbmax, who bought that company when Joe moved onto Madrock. They have a similar sounding name as ClimbX and now find themselves at a competitive disadvantage. But that's for them to get figured out, maybe they'll be the new Mad Rock importers and reps, meantime we can help them by buying stuff from them. So lets welcome ClimbX to the world and not forget ClimbMax.

is that the title of ur new book? The see no evil, eat no evil diet.