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Great post Prole. Great. I think we could get quite a few pages of speculation with answers to the questions you raise. We can all certainly look back on our Judeo-Christian history with plenty of revulsion on some of the (many) instances of Christian excess zealotry. Yet we did grow out of it ...for the most part, and the Islamacists (hopefully) will as well. Regards to all. Except you Pat, Dickhead.

The thread was kevboned and you guys fell into it by replying to the bone. IF YOU WILL BUT WATCH THIS VIDEO ALL WILL BE CLEAR. [video:youtube] Note that Leroy, like Kevbone, has NO clue. NONE> ! Should anyone require a full explanation, you can read the comments below the vid. There are currently 79,000 of them. Pink, you got all that route info at your fingertips? You might post it up. Love to see it.

Prole, since you missed it I'll give it up for you. The complete rundown on the right wing nut jobs Egyptian conspiracy theory's here: http://gawker.com/5749601/the-right+wing-nuts-guide-to-egypt They have the Rush's and the Glen Becks, but a bunch of others as well. It's pretty good as are the comments below. Oh, one more thing: Hey Pat, Fuck you asshole, I'm not posting this for you ya self-centered self-important be nothing do nothing dickhead. Jay knows that place better than you do your house ya patronizing piece of shit. Have a nice day.

44+ min? Dear Lord. I caught the first 8 seconds, is there anything interesting later on?

On the Fid idea Mark, if I'm climbing with wood down there I don't want any knot jamming around it in a fall.... ...just sayin' is all....

Did it make it to the Supreme Court? No, not the Supremes holding court.... I mean... ..the other Supreme Court.

Wuz it these? http://www.mcmaster.com/#2808a31/=aukby8 "Taper-Shank Masonry Hammer Drill Bit 1/4" Bit Sz, 4-1/4" Drilling Depth, 6" O'all Length"

Do you have any posts yet where you've been successful in not going out of your way to be an A-hole? Nevermind.

Inspiration right here: [video:youtube] [video:youtube]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-egypt-israel-usa-idUSTRE70U53720110131 Headline: Israel shocked by Obama's "betrayal" of Mubarak I will admit that I can't get the noise on that Glen Beck link, but I can see (sadly) that you guys must want us all to start listening to Beck and Limbaugh so that we can be up to snuff when have these topical discussions on things they say.

Well I was going to say "welcome" but think that based on the reception you got here maybe I was suppose to kick you right in the nutz first. Ruff crowd here. It's like a pack of wolves mass attack response here. They must have sniffed blood or weakness and just went for ya. Gots to love da internetz. Picture of how that might look: I was thinking Gecko for the shoe name, then I looked up and saw I was at least the 3rd person to that party. What was the web site you mention that had the superior wit and brains which nailed the new name? I googled it but came up blank. WELCOME ANYWAY DUDES!

Didn't Palin say that she'd be the President as the Senate if she had been elected VP? Didn't the President mix up Iraq and Afghanistan just last week? Everyone can make a mistake once their mouth starts prattling.

Another Jeff Thomas masterpiece. Hey, tell Ben it looks like he needs a bigger hammer. Nice TR! thanks

What I took away from that post was this: Did anyone ever figure out where the hu his translation went too? I figure everyone saw the recent Chinese news CCCP folks who showed a film clip of Top Gun suggesting it was a real clip of a missile hit.

You are pretending there is no difference between advocating sobriety and denying someone else the possibility of drinking. Hellooooo? To pursue your analogy, tea baggers are fully intent on preventing anybody else from having a drink under the pretense it is trampling their liberty while they keep drinking, which makes their hypocrisy abundantly clear. Not only am I not especially discussing health care except for illustration of tea bagger hypocrisy but I am definitely not discussing the health care bill that will do very little toward containing escalating health care costs. Your issue is with the encyclopedia, I copied and pasted that directly. If you wish to discuss "tea bagger hypocrisy" that's fine, but I suspect that given that we appear to be on different planets on the Ayn Rand hypocrisy charge you made, in that you have never addressed my points while continually introducing new and different ones with almost every post you make, we will get nowhere on that as well. So byby, have fun talking to yourself.

Pretty good read by the way: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/___Politics_Today_Stories_Teases/PPM153_vin.pdf

Either you support the constitution or you don't. I'm going to let the judges sort out the health care debate for now. The 2nd judge has just ruled it unconstitutional. I think 2 have said it's fine as written, so they can fight it out. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/31/5961248-florida-judge-rules-health-care-law-unconstitutional- As far as your other rant, I don't listen to Glen "father Coughlin" Beck, and don't care to start just so we can discuss if getting your own money back, AS PROMISED, that which was forcibly taken from you each paycheck, is hypocrisy or not. Unless someone (Rand in this case) has specifically said that "GO AHEAD, TAKE MY MONEY EACH PAYCHECK AND I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE IT AND I WILL NOT ASK FOR IT BACK EVER", or something like that: and then turns around and takes it later, I say not. It is NOT hypocrisy. You might consider looking up the word in the dictionary and we can start again from there. Let me help you get that info: "Hypocrisy is the state of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy involves the deception of others and is thus a kind of lie. Hypocrisy is not simply failing to practice those virtues that one preaches. Samuel Johnson made this point when he wrote about the misuse of the charge of "hypocrisy" in Rambler No. 14: Nothing is more unjust, however common, than to charge with hypocrisy him that expresses zeal for those virtues which he neglects to practice; since he may be sincerely convinced of the advantages of conquering his passions, without having yet obtained the victory, as a man may be confident of the advantages of a voyage, or a journey, without having courage or industry to undertake it, and may honestly recommend to others, those attempts which he neglects himself.[1] Thus, an alcoholic's advocating temperance, for example, would not be considered an act of hypocrisy so long as the alcoholic made no pretense of constant sobriety." You are welcome for that as well as the links I gave you above that helped further your case but which you seemed to have not clicked or read. Shall I post the full text of those 2 links here to make it easier for you?

Ayn Rand was a tea bagger? Wow, who knew? Now you want to debate healthcare? Have you personally read the new gov't healhtcare bill? I haven't, too big and confusing. I can't even comment on it except that being all big and confusing should have a good outcome. NOT!

As I don't think you can find someone to argue FOR being a hypocrite, I believe we part company on if one is a hypocrite for getting their own money back that the government had earlier took away from them. For myself, I still want smaller government and I want my own money back. We can't continue to borrow and spend like a drunken sailor. We MUST reduce the borrowing or we will be in deep yogurt sooner or later. No less than the future and security of our country is at stake.

OMB, Marmot only has the 5/16" diameter.

I like that route, I haven't been on it for quite some time, but it looks like there is still loose stuff on it from your picture. (near Ben's feet, loose rocks). Good for you guys!

That's a real good link, however, I don't know how you can argue against the right of immanent domain. Without it we would have no interstate or probably other highways. As far as your links goes, it makes it sound like there was no due process and Minnesota took the land. That's not the way that works in case you are unfamiliar with it, maybe you should research due process as it relates to immanent domain, and it is a process - it's not theft even if you choose to call it that. As far as the benefit of having a pipeline, I would imagine that folks in that area are happier in the cold assed winters and paying less for gas at the pump. Surely you don't think that the state would or should do a project like that? It's high risk, and states generally try to stay out of high risk, even when they are high reward. They come in after the fact and regulate the price. I think you'd have a better point discussing them having been caught with their hand in the cookie jar (this time was a $25 million dollar fine). Let me do your research for you to strengthen what I think your point is. Check this link. CBS STORY OF THEFT AND BETRAYAL or this one THEFT THEFT THEFT link or if you really wanted to whine you could bring up the elder Cocks having a partner (Marshall) who was dicking Anna Nicole Smith when he was a wrinkly old prune. I thought both 3 of 7 and 5 of 7 would have been better to make your point. "6 of 7 6. EMINENT DOMAIN Although highly diversified, Koch Industries' vast network of oil and gas pipelines remains the company's core business and main source of revenue. The exact size of their pipeline network is not known, but some estimate that Koch Industries operates anywhere between 35,000 and 50,000 miles of pipelines between Texas and Canada—enough plumbing to wrap around the globe twice or zigzag between New York and Los Angeles 15 times. How did the Kochs manage to build up a pipeline network of this magnitude? By getting the government to use its tyrannical powers of eminent domain forcibly seize private property on Koch Industries' behalf. As far as libertarians are concerned, eminent domain is a socialist tyranny straight out of the Leninist playbook, as it recognizes the government as the real owner of all land and vests it with the power to expropriate private property for alleged public good. At the most fundamental level, libertarians believe that eminent domain invalidates the notion of private property rights, threatening not just prosperity, but freedom. Charles Koch is clear on this. "Countries that clearly define and protect individual private property rights stimulate investment and grow," he writes in his book The Science of Success. "Those that threaten and confiscate private property lose capital and decline." But not all property rights are created equal. Koch Industries oil pipeline recently built in Minnesota shows that Charles Koch does not see an is anything wrong with the government confiscating private property, as long as he stands to make a profit. Completed in 2008, the 304-mile line now carries crude oil from the Canadian border to a Koch Industries refinery near the Twin Cities area via a two-foot-wide pipe. Company PR execs pitched the pipeline as a public benefit project, as it would increase Minnesota's gasoline supply. But the 1,000-plus landowners who were forced to handover their private property so that Koch Industries could run its pipeline didn't quite see it that way. "People's rights were violated, and they never got their due process," a farmer whose fields were going to be cut in two by the pipeline told a newspaper in 2007. "It's wrong. People's property is one of the most important things to their livelihood." Thanks for the link, although it's a lot of opinion. Like whining about Cock buying a ship from a socialist country (1 of 7) and naming it after his mother...uhhhh, sure. BF deal. Use my links next time you try and make this point, those are real facts about real theft. I don't know anyone who supports that kind of bullshit and I'm glad they got caught. I think there should have been jail time served but I wasn't there and don't know the facts (maybe the prosecutor determined that a conviction would have been impossible) so who are you specifically calling a hypocrite? Was that me or the Cocks? For them it is all about money, and they'd stab your mother in the back for a buck. However, if these dickheads start collecting some of the money that the govt took from them via Social Security, as much as I dislike the Obama tax cuts that gave these guys lower tax rates than they had while our country continues to go deeper in dept that we are borrowing on the world market and will have to pay back, I would support their right to get THEIR money (and it is their money that the Gov't took away for Social Security, not the federal reserves) back. Enjoy the links, later dude!

Complaining about "big government"? Like these guys? Thomas Jefferson observed: "To take from one, because it is thought that his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to every one a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it." And James Madison: "That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest." And Samuel Adams: "The Utopian schemes of leveling, and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical, as those which vest all property in the Crown, are arbitrary, despotic, and in our government unconstitutional." Uhhh, whatever.

Come up with something better. As the government takes that $ away from us out of our paychecks EACH month with the promise that we will get it back later, you would have to have a twisted brain to believe that you are somehow cheating the gov't or being a hypocrite when in fact you are only getting YOUR OWN money back. The more you pay in the more you get back. It's YOUR OWN DAMN money, NOT the governments.

Whoh dude....I'm not sayin....interesting how many phone numbers have been clipped at the bottom of it though:-)