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Is an Eagle then just a young cougar? Help out with some definitions Dru. Next time bring some pictures will ya. I want to add that the Rooster is welcome over to my house for dinner anytime.

Joe got it out and says that the church is hauling it away.

BTW - John just called and told me its raining. Looked out the window and sure as sh*t it's raining here too. I'm not far from LO, which means it's wet there. .........uhhhh.... sounds like scratching for tonight unless someone is jonesing.....maybe a trask trash haulout at RB or some gym climbing might be in order? maybe it clears in the next 45 min. ??

Scheimmei, you aren't there yet:-) Anyway, Joe needs a hand and a pickup truck if you can spare either. Help and a pickup truck needed

I just got a cell phone call from Joseph asking if someone could show up to the Butte with a pickup truck. He's trying to winch the washing machine and the engine block out to the top of Breakfast Cracks. Should be able to go to the dump no charge as these items are recycleable. PS, if you show and the stuff isn;'t on top yet, then walking it down and left out the trail to the base and out to Skidmore street might be easier (if there was 2 people). JH says that the church folks hauled it off. ! Yeeeeeaaaaa!

Thats cool. To answer the question, many coastal Alaskan cities where they are almost considered pests: also pdx for sure. Had one fly past my house last week. Saw 4 - (at once)of them 2 weekends ago out in the gorge.

see PM.

Wow, thats great stuff Rudy. I will note that that dude has more muscles in his left arm than I have in my entire body however. Inspirng.

Common problem, no worries. if you get lost call my cell.

You don't have that book? Dan and I had ours months ago. It included the new granite lines out at Renton area and 3 totally new areas around town including the new 400 foot high cliff 30 min from town. It's amazing. BTW, I don't know why the directions I gave you earlier didn't work. You want to try it again? Drive to Newport, then south to Coos Bay and take a left, go 25 miles towards the Cascade Mountains, take a right , then a left, go straight for 20 min, then left, then right. You're there. No probs!

Sean, i thought thats why God invented Mapquest.

Oh man, I feel your pain and know that feeling. Good to see you must have got them done and are back to normal. Taxes are definatly the opposite of happiness.

OK, sorry to swith directions at the last min, but Ujohn called and said that Lake Oswego would be perfect: warm AND dry. DOHHHH, I hadn't even thought of it. Be safer too as wet as the Butte is right now. It's where I'd like to go, anyone else?

$7K, whew! Dude we need to talk. I MADE both of our rings......Out of SILVER. Do you think it mattered to either of us? Nope.

I only have @ an hour and a half Tue evening, showing up at approx 6pm, so for me, if I want to pick up garbage I'd just stay at home and clean the living room...... so I'll be climbing. Joseph, I think if you just wrestle it down to Skidmore to the fixed garbage can, I suspect that the PDX people will get to it eventually.

You been talkin to my wife again? Its the internet. Like the Wild Wild West without any manners.

Kevin, Rocky Butte Tue and/or Wed. real climbing. See Events thread. PS, I have a Misty Mountain Cadillac you can try if you want to show up. (Not for sale, it's new) You doing one or all of Gents classes? Say hi for me. _______________________________________________________ Oh, sorry, theres 2 bills here and that was for the other one. Dohhh.

Shit, you not only don't even answer the thing: in fact didn't come close to answering the question, ya just come off sounding like a dick. Ya have to put a smiley face at the end if you are trying to be funny Carl, or it comes off wrong. Like this To answer your question, it's probably cause he's addicted to skiing and wants to maximise his experince. Thats my answer anyway, I'm looking to toss one into my quiver too. I already have a great ski for groomed trails, want something where the tip stays up in the wet slush and the width keeps me on top off trail. But thats my answer to your question anyway. ___________________________________________________________ Trying again: I want to see the answer to this question. I want to know what is a good Phat all mountain ski, and since some of you are experts and have researched the holy F*uck out of it, and probably tried 20 different demo models as well in all kinds of conditions, why the hell would I want to reinvent the wheel when I can just ask. Post away with the answers brothers....

Picklejuice, good to meet you as well. I took so long to do my post (got interuppted by 5 games of ping-pong, it's pretty serious around here), that I didn't see your reply about Wednesday. Hope you can make it Tuesday?

Tuesday will be great John. I'll be there at 5:50 pm approx. Great, we'll get a report - either one of of those areas will be good, but for early in the year, maybe silver bullet for some easier routes for out of shape folks, like your new improbable looking 5.7 one over there on the right of Fandango with the improperly spaced bolts. Thanks, I really appreciate the offer, but I have some cool people I live with that have priority for me over drinking with strangers, even if they're cool ones who climb hard. Appreciate the offer though. Maybe have em bring harness's and they can belay my old and fat ass up a 5.6, give em something different to laugh about for the next slideshow?

You can't go wrong on any of the choices. I'd go where my headspace would be best. Only you know how you feel on this. Yosemite has a times 9 better feel for goodness of heart than Smith for me, but if you don't have a campsite lined up in advance it can be real F*ed. Later summer Touleme. You could swing right by Donner summit/Lovers Leap on the way back and crank some classic lines.

It's that time again: Sunset is approx 7:30pm which gives ME (it's all about me) an hour and a half at the Butte. So my special question is: Who wants to do Tue or Wed after work. Who's down with Tue OR Wed, or would you want Tues AND Wed? Show of hands and vote on the day (s). I want 1 day only, Tue prefered - but I think JFrieh is only available Wed, and I'll gladly trade off Tuesday so I climb with him. Both days are suppose to be OK, but they are talking 62degrees Tue and 68 Wed for the high temp.

Well, I figured since Wayne was around back when and probably one of the few people strong enough to get up something like that, someone would have given him the beta and encouragement to do the route. It seems to me like it's been there for maybe 15-18 years...I'm not sure, but it seems like it's been there a long time. I've never even tried it as mono pocketed overhangs conflict with my fat ass and weak finger combonation. Figured it would be a recipe for meaningless tendon destruction for me, and really have to Sgt Schultz this one. (I know notzinggggg! ) didn't mean to sound too flippant on my first post. This is the only route I know of thats seen drilled holds. But of course about everthing out there has seen modifications, from trundling 500 lb death blocks, to nailing (so the cracks unintentionally get clean and turn into great fingerlocks ala Blackberry/WRabbit/Birds) and shoveling and scraping dirt out of the cracks (ever route out there) it all modifies the natural nature of the routes. I've done my share of all of that and the end result is that the place is a better place (IMO). Last think I'd want to see is some poor bastard take a ride to the ground hanging onto a 500 lb block which had been loose. Given some of the other crazyness out there, on a scale of 1-10 of things that piss me off or bother me, given the area, this isn't even on the chart. In an area where everything has been modified, someone (via a conventional ethical lapse) put up a damn difficult route which looks nice and stays dryer than the rest of the place. It appears that they didn't touch anything else out there before or after in this manner. Anyway, I suspect that a quick preview of the book will get you an answer. _______________________________________________________ Mike topos of this route are available for $10 $15 for you.

OMG, that just sounds horrible. My advise is to keep looking for and to get his draws back. Monkey might have been just lying like some people do on the internet, maybe he never ever was in the area. He said, she said. Nobody should be messing with your buddies stuff, conversely, some people don't think you should be leaving stuff like that up except in rare occasions. I hope he gets it back. It's bullshit no matter what. __________________________________________________________ BTW Pope, they've done tests on real old draws - they are stronger than you think. This is the internet, search it out and you'll see it's the truth, this should get you started. Black diamond breaking tests OMG, Pagetop. Edited to add to POOP, hey dude, yeah, I'm talkin out my ass, anyone who knows me knows that just the way it is. So what? BTW, I clip all kinds of manky crap. Thats how I roll. Try to back it up...but sigh...sometimes....sometimes ya just have to slam in a couple of new bolts with the old Bosch Annilator....

Nuff, thats strange that you break so easily. You have calcium deficits? Shit, I had to pull a small boulder off right down on my foot to break it. Then my buddy says "you heading out now? How bout a belay before ya go?" So I belayed.