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Wheres the Oly welcome back thread? Welcome Back Oly!

Bumped into Jason the other day. He'd be a good candidate for the mens calender. His arms are still that big but now I think it's from carrying around his lil' 1 year old pup. Cute lil fella too.

Peter, I think people should leave your stuff alone. No matter if they are fixed draws or rope. I think people should have left this fellas stuff alone too, and if he finds them he should kick their ass's and I'd help. As I mentioned earlier, I have, right now, a rope hanging off some f*ing crag. It's not a beater rope either. I've left ropes fixed on the Captain too. I think this kind of thing is situational. If the OP was getting out frequently and thought that getting these draws off the bolts on THIS route was difficult, or relatively unsafe, then why not leave em. He was going to bang it out and pull em when he was done and he didn't think it was a long term thing. (OK, I'll grant that 10 days isn't necessarilly banging it out). However: it does seem to me that this has turned into an acceptable practice in our community and draws are left due to laziness alone in many cases. (I don't know about this case specifically). I find that unplatable and it shouldn't be the case IMO. Pull your shit when you're done. Sometimes, like probably in this case, or in my case (I was asked to leave the rope by another so I did), you're not done. You're not finished. It's a judgement call and a fine line which can more easily be walked if folks on either side of the line were to think of other people. Bottom line for me though is this: Don't f* with peoples stuff. Me, you, anybody. There, that's what defines it to me. Your results, as they say, can and will vary.

The French are renoun for going to remote areas and leaving trash all over the place. Should we accept and duplicate this practice as well? The French and Spanish bolt the cracks. Should we accept and duplicate this practice as well? You want I should go on?

I'd almost bet money that the alternative will cost more and be less environmentally friendly. Polititians could fu*k up a wet dream.

Oh my....well said. Agreed: noting that there's something ya won't see everyday, Dwayner and Kevin agreeing. If they were that easy to pull, don't ya think you should have done it yourself. I feel the same as I always have. Don't leave them. Don't take em if somebody was selfish and left them. Leave others shit alone. If it's really garbage, like a car engine or washing machine tossed over a cliff, pick it up and put it in the trash, otherwise, leave it be. Sometimes draws are near impossible to pull. Steep, overhanging, long runouts. Sometimes it's just laziness. It's about respect and it's truly a 2 way street.

I'll wager a guess. Kevbone and, to a lesser extent, his main-man, pink taco, believe that their bohemian resumes elevate them beyond criticism. Particularly, when their attitudes of entitlement, which were "earned" through years of "climbing hard", are not respected on teh interwebs (they just want to PLAY withe the rest of us) they get sorta, ya know, defensive. You see, in their minds, they can post trash, acrimony, and painful prose and expect nobody to respond negatively because, as they've claimed numerous times, they climbed hard from a mobile command center during their formative years when the rest of us were pursuing less worthwhile endeavors like working our ways through school, paying mortgages, and starting families. Additionally, they have great big tasty dicks. So when someone has the pedantic GALL to disrepect Kevbone's boy-toy on teh interwebs, he gets all incensed because he KNOWS what pink taco has been through, and it was tough, and it was noble, and it was righteous, and we just need a little perspective in order to temper our viewpoints. When are you all gonna start guessing and speculating what Olyclimbers disease is cause I'd find that more interesting than this thread.

How about this Minx: Kev and Andrew have climbed together, and that their "real" personalitys are nice people and they like each other?

As we all are

And bless you too.

Yeah it's strange, I finally meet Tim like 12 years ago, and I say hi and he says "You're probably mad at me". I'm like stunned "Uhhh, no, whuhever for?" I'd never said a bad word about the dude, and I still don't know him. But I like the part of Waynes post where he encourages us to just get out there and do it and be helpful to others. Post modified: nothing behind the curtain.

Good to hear it. Is the disease unmentionable or can you talk about it?

I just read that rush thing: ouch.

Hey, they got one of your buddy Rush:

OK I did it and this is all I get. Not very damning. Wait: ..........ahhh - here we go.... Nope, not damning at all.

No shit. Course, you gotta love the hair. It's difficult for Amis. Hairy soft downy thighs, arms, underarms..... sigh, to be young again.....

GO GIRL! GO GIRL! GET EM! YOU GO ! Sorry, I'm bad at that aren't I? ......Damn.....Besides it's still wet today.

There would be girls who would share (the picture) with other girls. Like 3 hot women on a belay ledge for instance......hmmmm......

Bsatch, I think that I saw this movie. Didn't the dudes also have dogs? The bitch ate your lunch and the stud pissed on your pack and had his way with your girlfriend? Saw it. Pretty sure. I think That the dude who played in the Matrix starred in it. Keono Reeves. Yeah. ______________________________________________ Next time just politely walk over - grab their ropes and say "you mind"? Then jump on their rope.

Down the road in Renton.

Dude, 20 people? Give up the goods.

Non climber. Then you can pick partners more suited to various projects you have without offending a loved one who can't climb hard shit.

Love that woman! I've noticed that the best climbers show up occasionally on the net if at all. I suspect they are out climbing while the rest of us are running around chewing on each other but have been unable to verify this so far.

Thats a very nice start. Opps, little backsliding on the sense of community thing there. Admirable dude, but ya still have some work to do on it there. Might start by re-reading your post. BTW, interesting thing, you can go back and change your posts. So "Keep your fuckin lame ass opinions about shit to yourself and climb." can turn into, can't we all just get along my good friends". See?

BTW, a quick survey shows that 35% of the climbers doing 85% of the routes support this new name an overwhelming 92% of the time. _______________________________________________________________ [font:Arial]pulled that right out my ass[/font]