billcoe

Well lets just ask the MAN! hisself. Looks like the answer is NO! Are there any other questions for the MAN! hisself?

Lake Ann Trailhead? I don't know where this is, just pointing it out in case. Good luck

Just some internet gear protocol, when complaining about ones gear and another goes "send them to me", they are joking..... (I'm teasing of course: I have 4 full sets of Offset Aliens but found it much easier to just send Aric some money ($50) so he could buy his own as he was getting them for cost). I know you don't want to climb on anything CCH makes given all the facts and probably didn't want to sell them so as to foist that issue on another so your solution was very generous. How many did you contribute?

LOL! so appropriate here....

Coming up Boss! opps (but you can tell this kids gonna be a climber......)

That's awesome news Elaine! I'll get a letter out in the next few days. Highly recommend all of us, but especially Clackamas county residents, do the same for sure. The finish line is in sight, lets keep it up!!!! Thank you and Keith again for all the hard work you've been putting into this.

Opps, Metolius Offset Mastercams (sorry, bit of tongue in cheek satire there for folks who were complaining about my "New DMM "Camalots" post:-) THESE ARE ON THE WAY TO RETAILERS NOW (they say)!!! Per Vegas Trad guy who is doing the Outdoor Retailer show in Vegas right now, these are his pictures and the link is the full blog with bunches of interesting things for aspiring gear whores and sycophants like moi. http://www.rockclimbing.com/Articles/Gear_and_Reviews/Outdoor_Retailer_Summer_09_Day_1_1051.html I will say that I love the CCH Alien dual colored plastic coated cable loop scheme which makes identification real fast and easy. I don't see that on these but rather a brand new idea for color coding offsets. It could just be that I need a moment to get use to their new color coding idea where the plastic is the large cams color and the webbing is the small size. I'm trying hard not to sound like and old man here fully stuck in his ways...but I'm failing damnit all. Regards

The reality is that most of us do not have a clue how this would work or what the numbers before or after really are. Perhaps you really have nothing to fear but fear itself? Frankly, it may be a better thing, I don't think we can say for sure. Like you, I don't see the gov't kicking ass when it comes to efficiency, so my trust level, starting out, is very low.....however, it seems like Obamas points that A) HE has great health care along with all the members of congress, and B) Many of YOU don't is the Gods honest truth and an solid point of which to start when you consider this.

Do you know how many of these deadlines I have seen come and gone?

...but he wasn't the one who said: ...in discussing the moon landing.

dont lose sleep over it Will. that place pretty much sucks anyway. 4-6 routes. I liked it. It may be a shi**y little rat hole, but it was real nice to go there in the spring when the sun first peeked out behind the clouds and it would be dry for an early season after work romp with some buddies. Probably was good for the entire year just going there once or twice. I found it to be both convenient and fun. My wish is 2 fold. First, I hope climbers respect the signs that say it's private property and not trespass. Next, I hope the access fund can get it open, but I would bet it won't be happening any time soon. Sadly. There are other places to climb and boulder real near there if you are local. Just look for them.

Geoff was joking ....

You're 3rd in line.....

I'll have some of what your smokin and maybe it will turn around.

It's interesting, sometimes the young ones will mock attack as if they are practicing. When they get older they don't seem concerned at all. Someone once told me that if they do that to you, (and I've heard of this happening before and it's always early when they are flying) just wait and plan, then toss some pea gravel or dirt at them (not to hurt but to startle them) and it will teach them to not do that behavior. They evidently learn immediately to not do it again. Never tried it myself though (never needed too). It seems that they eventually learn climbers aren't a threat as they see more of them as the summer goes on.

Masterpiece!!!!

Nice stuff! I need to get out of the house more, never been there. Pete, did you folks leave the pins fixed? Meantime, here's some non-fixed pin routes. (fixed bolts, they are all 1/2" x 6-1/4 long stainless wedge anchors, all 15 except for the 1/2 way point which is the intermediary belay anchors and those are 3/8 x 5" stainless wedge anchors with stainless Fixe carabiner style rap points on them. This is Cathedral Formation out at the Gothic Rocks area. First pitch of the first route there. Trench Warfare is the route name 5.10a Look at those amazing knobs...wait, that would be a good route name. Amazing Jugs!

Good shit Mike and Wayne! Good parts: "This fire water somehow reacted with the plastic, and created the most awful brew. It tasted like turpentine mixed with poison. We drank it anyway...." LOL! A 1 lb 45L Cilogear backpack...holy shit, that's almost a negative number. Great pics too!

new/updated book in print/reprint... Tim Olsen has updated the Gorge climbing/trail booklet with off-trail cross-country summits & adventures current as of 2009 - available on his website and also at Climb Max. http://www.portlandrockclimbs.com/portland-rock-climbs Bottom link. says: "The booklet provides a detailed analysis of mostly technical choss from Rooster Rock, Crown Point, St Peters Dome, Katanai Rock and Apocalypse Needles and more. Plus an exploratory analysis of major creek systems and ridge scrambles of the Gorge. The booklet is designed for the climber who likes to be serious about rugged off-trail climbing, summiting and adventures in the Gorge. Not a sport climbing book at all, and definitely not a hikers guide."

Well spoken sir!

OMG!

OK, I'll give you $20 bucks and toss in this Garden Gnome. Uhhh, that's 20 bucks delivered Mike. Need to surprise the wife with a unique anniversary present.

DMM bought WC in like 96 I thought, but Simon from DMM was saying that they are separate like last year when he was discussing the DMM contract they have for manufacturing the sexy and amazing WC Helium Biners. Oh well, either way I suppose. They make great stuff. I need new cams like I need hemorrhoids, but I'll probably have to go out and buy a couple of sets immed... Ugggghh NO! Must... resist ....gear....tractor..... beam....Uhhhg....

But they come back and join in occasionally and thankfully! Nice pic, Used T-62?

Are you saying, Mr Head, to just break it off?