iain

you could also learn some tricks of the trade watching A-team reruns. added bonus are oxy-acetylene welding in 30 seconds and helicopter pilot's license in 1 minute.

quote: Originally posted by Off White: quote:Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: Dru doesn't have any Avatats...... what are you talking about??? who is comming to eugene to climb at the collums with me??? Is an avatat when you have your .gif inked into your flesh? lmao that's some funny geek stuff right there

boy that's childish behavior. I'll stick to anthropomorphizing snafflehounds and then making image montages of their lifestyles.

the unstoppable dr. top won't be denied

that photo looks fake for some reason

I'm not badmouthing the product. All I am saying is there have been problems marketing avalanche safety equipment, where there is even a visible and known threat to the user, so there will probably be trouble marketing something similar to protect against the "unknown" and which has no use other than when you need an evacuation. I wonder how much different models will weigh. How many Mt. Hood climbers rent an MLU?

quote: Originally posted by rbw1966: Thanks for the reminder Matt. My EMT-B certification lapsed some years ago. Good experience and a fun job but the pay sucks in the private sector. I think Paramedics are some of the most underpaid professionals in the country. Whereever there is bad stuff happening in a city that is where you are going, all day.

Something that starts at $300, and is for safety and may never be used sounds like a similar marketing wall to overcome as avalanche tranceivers. Perhaps even more difficult. I think they need to be cheaper and/or rentable at this point.

wild sk is much more elusive to catch these days on cc.com

if you could get an HH60 to hover directly overhead to throw in some rotor wash and white noise you've got yourself a scenario

VH1 Behind the Music - snafflehounds on tour Get in the mood for the big show with some booze Rock. Party like a rock star. Wake up in trashed hotel, hammered. The strain of the constant touring and excessive partying were wearing thin. [ 10-18-2002, 01:32 PM: Message edited by: iain ]

I think WFR should be standard for mountain rescue. It's just difficult to get enough people to commit the time and sometimes the money (some groups will provide some sponsorship, or often, some members in the unit are WMI/WMA instructors).

the fireman's belay thing works well too where you just yard on the rope ends if the person starts freaking out. but the you have to be first one down and can't check out their setup and talk them through the hardest part of getting started on the rappel.

I could see that if you were anticipating a knot pass. I was referring to a beginner who would have enough to deal with besides minding that prusik.

Actually you just need basic first aid to meet the requirements of the OSSA for general state SAR certification. The mountain rescue units in Oregon usually require more advanced training, and endorse WFR, W-EMT, EMT, and Paramedic. Another good certification is the Outdoor Emergency Care program taught by the National Ski Patrol. Paramedics are particularly valuable for a number of reasons both logistically and legally. Most people don't want to dedicate that much time to medical training, and a standard Wilderness First Aid or FR certification is fine if you are going to assist a WFR or EMT. I would not want to rely on WFA alone though, if I was likely to be in charge of an accident scene.

That type of backup has generally gone out of style for beginning rappelers, since they don't necessarily know how to unweight the prusik if it accidently sets, and there is the bad instinct to grip the rope if you get out of control on rap, which prevents the prusik from setting. The better alternative I know if is to put a carabiner on the the leg loop, clip a prusik loop in, and wrap the loop a few times around the brake line. Clip the loop back into the carabiner, and you have what's called an autoblock, and you can stop and start at will. Make sure it does not go into the ATC, as that causes a serious problem. You can extend the ATC out with a runner if this is a possible issue.

Also if you are interested in mountain rescue, the EMT-B program is actually recognized by the state of Oregon and Washington, while the WFR (a more appropriate and comprehensive certification for mountain rescue in my opinion) is not. So technically it is more useful for the unit rather than the WFR. In fact a standard urban first responder (police officer, some firefighters) has more power at the accident scene from a legal standpoint than a WFR. Such is life when dealing with the state. Personally I would screw the consequences if someone is dying. I'll administer epi for anaphalaxis and sort out the consequences in court. [ 10-18-2002, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: iain ]

go for emt-i and emt-p then you can stick tubes in people.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: My prognostication: Someone will die, or get left behind, or get frostbite. Remaining family members will sue. Any guide that takes this gig is a loon. RECIPE FOR DISASTER. Greg I think you are right on the money.

yes quick on the draw but you didn't produce the bigbird/larrybird photo montage which is worth at least a bazillion spraybucks. I'll be the first with a live giant squid photo, count on it.

no one cares if you climb Dwight Yoakum ridge do they?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Where is Chinese Ed Abbey when needed? Most likely executed.

My attendance hinges on the above number.

I might be in. when does the deal expire?