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The trick is to add the garlic at the end of the saute, not the start.

Sorry, I farted.

Serenity: I've never heard of it, but then again I've never lived in a house with cable or satellite TV, and haven't gotten the broadcast variety in at least a decade. I did a little research, and the preliminary results suggest that you and I have found common ground. A Synopsis of Episode One of Season Four

Help, I've come unstuck in time! Yes, you're correct Sobo. If you leave at lunch time you'll be here in time!

Whoa, let's not get too hasty here. Like the book banning incident, I'm pretty sure all those statements she's made in the past were purely rhetorical in nature. Poorole - looks like you are--once again--a victim of that DNC Kool Aid: http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp I'm sorry Fairweather, but if you read Prole's statement, it's clear that he understands the facts, that the request has been termed "rhetorical". What do you think would have happened if the Wasilla Librarian had told Palin, "sure, we can do that, we just pull them off the shelves and throw them away"? Librarians have a long standing devotion to academic freedom, so Palin's exploration of how to go about removing books met with resistance and refusal. The quotes in your Snopes citation do not reflect an innocent "what is your policy" type query but are geared towards an exploration of how to take action. The actual question, "What would be your response if I asked you to remove some books from the collection" could be construed as either a test of subservient obedience or a trial balloon for a future request, but it sure didn't sound like a request for clarification on existing library policy regarding patron complaints about items in the collection. If Barack Obama asked Dick Cheney "what would be your response if I asked you to remove Jews from the executive branch of government" would you be content with the disclaimer that it was merely rhetorical in nature, "simply a policy discussion with a department head about understanding and following administration agendas"? (the latter quote is attributed to Mayor Palin as an attempt to diffuse the furor over her censorship question in your Snopes citation) That's what I mean about not needing to inflate or stretch Palin's flaws, what she has in fact done and said is quite creepy enough and doesn't need crafty lies like the ones your side is putting forth about Barack Obama being a secret muslim, a vehement racist, or the anti-christ come as prophesied. I'm quite content to leave that sort of blatant lying crap to the spiritual offspring of Lee Atwater (who mentored Karl Rove, who trained McCain's handler Steve Schmidt) who made it standard Republican operating procedure. Yes, there are some slimy untrue exaggerations and outright slander circulating about Sarah Palin, but I think it pales in comparison to the things done to this years Republican nominee by his own party back in 2000. Remember all that stuff about McCain and his illegitimate black child that was trotted out in the South Carolina primary? Lies, all lies, but now some of the same folks are trying to work their magic for him, and I don't hear him issuing any refutation of the evil bullshit that's shoring up his corrupt "straight talk express". Here's a link to an article about that primary.

Tomorrow, September 13th, is looking to be a real peach of an evening, c'mon out!

Palin has enough real flaws without inflating or stretching them. Seeing as how she's opposed to legal abortion and a proponent of abstinence only education, it would be more shocking if she did anything but insist that her underage daughter carry to term, or carry her own fifth child for that matter. Choice means allowing people to make their own decisions, regardless of what I think they should do. Now, from the things she's said in the past, I think its possible she might not like anyone to have a choice, and I think that's a very good reason to make sure its not up to her to decide for everyone else.

That trail is in the NC National Park, so I believe the NW Forest Pass requirement got dropped a couple years ago. It's the Park that won't maintain the trail, but as I recall they didn't want anyone else to maintain it either. This was a couple years ago maybe? Ring a bell for anyone?

He'll put you on the rack, suspend you from a rope, he'll stuff you in a grinder break your jaw and cut your throat. He'll visit you with locusts he'll visit you with plague he'll visit your apartment kill your cat and break your leg. He'll cover you with cooking oil and roast you on a spit. He'll give you indigestion and then staple your lips. He'll fill your head and heart with dreams that can't come true, and spend his weekend thinking of different kinds of flu. He'll slaughter the innocent just to test your faith, put glass under your tires spit tobacco in your face He'll fill the world with roaches slugs and jellyfish. He'll give you years of horror for every second of bliss. He'll give you diseases make your teeth turn brown have you eaten up by maggots when you're six feet underground... He does all these things 'cause he loves everybody. If you disagree he'll pulverize every bone in your body. 'Cause God is a groovy guy Uh huh, get down. God is a groovy guy Uh huh, good God.

Pretty much sums up the main uses for hexes. They'll store even better at my place, I'll pay the postage.

No silly man, Chavez seizes private companies, when we do it we bail them out. It's really not the same thing at all.

Nice pics and story, I'd guess this route might be more palatable as an early season outing when snow covers much of that unenjoyable terrain?

Didn't someone from the general public do a little pruning last year and the NPS wanted their head on a stick? Damned vigilante trail maintenance!

Nope, Pete Doorish was never Trask, I assure you.

I've come to appreciate the Rockcentrics, but I almost always have the three smallest wired Chouinard hexes on my rack too. Nothing says "relax" like a well slotted hex. If your hexes (whatever the brand) walk, you must be doing something wrong.

Climbers For McCain!

Memo to myself: Do the dumb things I have to do. Touch the puppet head.

That's terrible news, so sorry to hear this. Luke Distelhorst photo:

"My people believe that we all came from little balls of frozen sweat in the armpits of the Frost Giants, what do your people believe?" It really startled the missionaries at my door when I trotted my ancestral creation myth past them. It's certainly as plausible as Intelligent Design.

Wasn't there another Rabbi shot, more of a finger pointer than a palms to the chest posture? Oh, and how could I forget Hank the dwarf, Tom Stoppard, or Big Lou? There's also the Gert whoever's album cover. I didn't mention Mr Simmons on purpose, though that still didn't prevent a visitation. I'm pretty sure there's at least a dozen images in the catalog. I dunno Porter, the stock images don't have shock value anymore, but they are a BBS version of comfort food, like psychic macaroni & cheese for those who want to revisit familiar territory. They're a visual representation of attitude, often a non verbal shorthand for disdain, derision and scorn. The Dawg prefers to avoid crude language, and often a picture is worth a thousand f words. Kevbone and Pink have worked at mining this oeuvre as well, but Raindawg must be acknowledged as the master. Here's some of my personal favorites!

Drater, who bearded you about top roping in another thread, is the person I know of who's closest to the route. I believe it's on private property, not reservation land. I'd guess you could wangle an invitation. You might also try contacting Phil Gleason. Striking line, that's for sure. NWMJ article

I don't believe that's the case, I don't know that he's ever posted here, or on any climbing related BBS for that matter.

Looks like cragging in Der but without the people. How far in is this stuff? I'm sure we'd all like to see what you've been up to in the Nightmare Needles, a dramatic area that doesn't get much attention. for John McPhee!

No Jefe, that's not Raindawg, rather it's one of his twelve standard images, a little better than Fierce-Rabbi-Guy, not quite as charming as Mr-Excited-To-Be-On-Via-Ferrata boy, and not nearly as cute as the girl in front of the Blissful-Hippy-Crowd.

Hey you scumbuckets and hamster dancers, this thread is strictly for climbing related insults and slander, go check out an Athahulkee thread if you want to spew that kind of stomach chowder.