Greg_W

This is stupid. Yep, "let's force our opinion on people and close down a route so we'll get attention, because we are more important than you are." What bullshit. These people are so fucking self-important it makes me sick. I know all you fucking liberals think YOU and YOU ALONE know what's best for America, but you can all fuck off. All you're saying is that you are an elitist because your desire to feel good about yourself by staging an obnoxious demonstration is more important than someone else's desire to climb. What do you think this says to a couple of climbers who have made plans for months, and taken precious time off from work and their families, to come climb the NA Wall? Pester people at Camp 4, hand out leaflets at the boulders, whatever; don't clog routes for your personal agenda (and, yes, it is YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA). Keep it off the rock. Greg_W

That's sick...AND wrong!

Nice edit, byotch.

I'm Oliver North.

Greg start's telling the truth after years of cut-and-paste! Yeah. The bitch is that I already had the dates in my Palm Pilot; checked it last night. Doh!

Sheesh, warn a guy before he blindly hits "print". It's 55 pages long.

I agree.

Okay, for the simple, what are the official dates for the Smith trip?

My dog loves ice cubes; she sticks her whole nose in the bowl to snag them.

Neither of those persons are/were the president at the time. Sorry, but the Secret Service has their own protocols and reports to the Department of the Treasury.

Al Gore did the same thing in Seattle a couple years ago. It a Secret Service thing.

I'm sure you could do to skip a Big Mac or two...

I agree, Iain. I've always wondered why Kerry is resting on the laurels of his four month command [b/] of a swiftboat in Viet Nam as his qualification to be a great president. But, ultimately, Kerry is the one touting his military service as his badge of honor so what does he expect but critical review of said service? I'd rather know what he's done in the last 20 years in Congress that makes him qualified; he must not be too proud of that part. Makes one wonder.

Kosovo wasn't a quagmire, Mark? Come on. His machinegunner is a member of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and doesn't have too much good to say for him. He was on his second tour when he came on to Kerry's crew; I think that qualifies him to comment on the quality of a swiftboat operator.

sheep.

No, Matt, Clinton is not running again but Fairweather's point is well-taken: nobody cried foul about Clinton committing troops more than any other president since FDR and his lack of military experience. Not to metion his protests about the Viet Nam War. The jury is still out on whether Kerry "served with valor" or not. Funny you say he served with valor, yet he called himself a war criminal at the time. Which is it? The Bush Administration is not "parading around" John O'Neill and the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth; they are working on their own initiative to right what they feel is an error in Kerry's memory of events that Kerry was involved in. They were a little more involved with Kerry than you claim by saying that they "happened to be somewhere in Vietnam at the same time..." These men were involved in the action Kerry touts, one was his CO, and another was on Kerry's crew.

This is both impossible and stupid.

It's the precedent and the opportunity to encroach even more in the future that worries me, Fairweather. YOu know the operators within the U.N. lust for power like our own Congressmen and President.

Is she into bandanas?

Reagan never saw combat and I wouldn't say he was anything less than a larger-than-life man's man. My opinion on your stupid post.

Actually, there is nothing "new" about it. The reciprocation agreement is from 1990. We also had some of them here during the last ('02) midterm elections. My understanding is that they will have no power of any kind, but will only issue some type of report after the elections to spotlight potential problems. How is this a bad thing? We may be the beacon of democracy, but let's no kid ourselves, shady shit goes on in elections, even here. I'll skip the Florida 2000 bit because it's been hashed to death, so here's another example: Illinois 1960. Kennedy's victory was more than likely the product of Daly's manipulation of the election. We are not giving up anything, only inviting a delegation of somewhat disinterested people to observe and tell us if they see problems. Surely transparancy is a good thing in a democratic election? I see your points, Will. However, it worries me that we have Leaders of our Country essentially saying to the World, "we can't manage ourselves, come help us." It's a political move, without a doubt, made by those who see value in greater control and oversight by groups like the United Nations. To me, this has the potential to be yet another attempt to subvert our sovereignty to the UN. Sure, I know that many of you will call me paranoid, and maybe I am a bit, but that's okay. I believe in America and the unique for of governance that we have been experimenting with for the last 223 years. It rubs me wrong to think that other Americans are so ready to beg for foreign help instead of seriously looking to fix the problem ourselves. So now one of you liberals will say, "Oh, but it's okay that WE go in and do the same to other countries." Well, no, I never said that; let's stick to the issue at hand. I don't like it. I think it's a mistake. I think those who want this are making a issue where one may not exist. And I think that the State Department has no jurisdiction, Constitutionally, to request such oversight. The Federal Elections are governed by the individual States. That's my opinion, like it or not; I don't care. Express yours, if you wish. Save your bashing of my right-wing ideology, it doesn't affect me or sway me - Fuck off, in advance. Oh, and to those of you who say, 'we have nothing to hide, what's the big deal?' Would you feel the same way about inspectors/observers knocking on your door at home? You've got nothing to hide, right? Greg_W

I ain't Rick James, Bitch!!! Read me. What a bunch of hogwash. "International election monitors" in the United States? What happened to our sense of sovereignty? I am totally disgusted that members of our government (yes, on both sides) would allow this even on an "advisory" basis. We're not some third-rate banana republic holding our first election after a civil war. This is a new low...

I have Degres and they work well for slogs. However, I wouldn't do a long approach in them and I wouldn't size them much more than a 1/2 size above your street-shoe. They aren't a bad "entry level" boot; now that I've done more, I'm looking for better performance and slimmer profile.

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