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don't think i'm up for the pain-amplifier that is trout-creek at the moment maybe i should just go buy meself some hand-jammies?

are you a peter-pupper? do you suck dick? why i bet you could suck a golf-ball through a garden hose! you strike me as the kind of man who'd fuck a fellow in the ass in the morning and not have the goddamn human-courtesy to give'em a reach-around!

what are you - 5'6"? i didn't know they could stack shit that high.

you climb like old people fuck

anyone wanna climb sunday? perhaps someplace other than the butt?

ah, and if this was in fact the original point, might we not settle it by pointing out the obvious? one man's patriot is another's traitor, entirely depending on one's political choices and values? jefferson davis and bobby lee - southern patriots, northern traitors daniel ellsberg - dove's patriot, hawk's traitor oliver north - conservative hero, everyone else's sicko eggs benedict arnold - british patriot, american traitor (formerly british traitor, american patriot) etc. etc. etc. sheehan is clearly a patriot from the viewpoint of those opposing this war as she has laid several costly sacrifices on the altar of freedom - her son, marriage, and happiness - in order to end it and, to her and other's viewpoint, remove the usa from a misadventure that exposes our democratic values as flimsy excuses for old-fashioned imperial avarice

versus

That makes a difference? Your original contention was that Clinton's actions were "cheeky". I was simply addressing that - not making any comparisons of body counts. comedy, like the body itself, rarely survives dissection not being british, i doubt if i can fully comprehend the defintion of "cheeky," but i infer it to mean good-naturedly silly, like getting blown by your intern in a west-wing bathroom or smoking a slimey cigar in the presence of a world-leader - or maybe jokes that are actually funny. none of these are things i've heard bush is capable of. he seems to do better at the "cruel and tragic" shit that clinton is less well none for - notably, running secret prisons (unless clinton's were uber-secret, of course), holding folks w/o trials for a half-decade, torturing, attempting to appoint his girlfriend to the supreme court, deploying 100k soldiers in the name of ?, etc...

from what I've seen, the best anti-war movie yet. really? i'd say it's damn lukewarm at that - too documentary in style to have much of an opinion on war at all - just an attempt to show it as it is (which, of course, makes it mostly anti-war, since war is really stupid n' all) all quiet on the western front - born on the 4th of july - the thin red line - das boot - all much better at pushing the fuck war message, imho

i watched "day of days" - band of brothers episode 2, instead seahawks, how we gon' tell the 4k anything dude? they're a bit hard of hearing at the moment...

lemme see - the first pic is serbia? that wasn't something we wanted to be part of? perhaps a lesson learned - that ignoring the rwandan genocide was stupid? is it how many were killed that you say was in question? the second photo i'm not so sure of - that the drug company that the feds said was actually making weapons? i don't remember the details - and i don't mind zapping suspected terrorists or training camps, which i know he did in afghan. the third - obviously rwanda: here's where clinton differs from bush he admits that he dropped the ball big-time on that one has bush even hinted that his handling of iraq, afghanistan, 9/11 might also be colossal fuckups? did he trash the international reputation of the usa? walk away from the mideast peace process? return to deficit spending? throw away 3500 us lives on a futile cause? get elected by appealing to the american inclination to hate fags, feminists and foreigners? maybe he was even as fucked up and full of shit as bush, but christ, at least he could explain it coherently

i'd still like to hold onto this dream though that the brilliance of our elocution can change minds make allies of enemies calling those who disagree with us dipshits perpetuates our problems gandhi is done

at least "assclown" is cheeky n' funny

my very important opinions must be held until the page ain't so wide no more bush better than clinton? wow. to misquote "supertroopers" - clinton's sheenagins were cheeky and funny bush's are cruel and tragic

i'd like to have that 1:14 of my life back now, please. klenke stoke!

i seem to recall from the brief time that i claimed there that the "face of a 1000 pitons" at seneca rocks, wv, was so named by the same rangers who were planning such tomfoolery

seems like the situation is setting up perfect for a grudge-fuck so was anyone gonna disagree w/ the "bush is a bad president" thing then? the argument would seem then to be over just how bad he is then...

so is there a point to be made in this thread now? if there is, it seems only that "bush is a bad president" - who here disagrees with that? the rest is just dithering and static

pbs had a "secrets of the dead" show on that last night - really cool - they dug up one of the tunnels and found tons of artifacts, even though the camp was long gone - had a number of surviving veterans from the escape there too - none looking now as good as steve mcqueen then...

well, actually it's owed to a lot more than just them - it took a whole nation...actually a lot more than just our nation - we wouldn't have left the beaches if the russian's weren't busy destroying the lion share of the wehrmacht. for the d-day vets though - won't be long 'fore their battle is as ancient as antietam

the sherpa becomes increasingly scary as the summer sets in though - eventually requires boots/crampons/axe and rappelling

hey, i agree! the gov shouldn't be regulating information on the tv any more than in newspapers, magazines, books, the internet, etc. hard-core porn on nbc at 10 a.m. followed by the neo-nazi hour be damned...people can think for themselves, and if they can't, then what the fuck's the point of trying to make sense out of the world anyway?

i've done the improbable traverse a couple times in the past few years and haven't seen any bolts - reckon the lower right part of the face could have some though?

ummm - stay off my side

There's a couple of native women in the canoes when they resupply in the Antilles though aren't there? just the one i'm mentioning - only 10 seconds - leads to the mostly manly toast a man can make: "to wives and sweet-hearts - may they never meet!"