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Sum it up. Science has studied it means it is OK. Science has not studied it means it does not exist. A true scientist would say "I do not know" in those cases where he/she does not have any data. A person who says, "we can explain why you are wrong" without using data, or empirical evidence is not using scientific methodology.

By the time a woman really understands what you want from her, she leaves.

No, but where is that patch of wild mushrooms you musta found?

It should pass. But meanwhile, there is a tear enhancer, I think it requires a prescription, that moistens and stimulates natural tear production. Good luck! My dry eyes went away after a couple months with normal eye drops but everyone is different.

Your bias toward scientific studies is blindig you to new possibilities. I have dowsed for water. It was a mind blower. Can't explain it tho so it must have been a hallucination right? I pity you your narrow perspective. Seriously. It is sad in its limitations.

Wikpedia "Homeopathic remedies are made from substances that, in undiluted form, cause symptoms similar to the disease they aim to treat." This is about the only thing Wikpedia said that I have been led to beleive about homeopathy. "like cures like" in your terms. I do not know where you get "There has never been a single case where a homeopathic remedy worked according to the principles that the practice is based upon." when you yourself state that there has not been exhaustive emperical research done (paraphrase). So you ask why I accept it in some circumstances? In one case that worked for me, my blood sugar had spiked and then crashed. A surgeon wanted to remove my gall-bladder. Another wanted to stimulate my pancrease with some kind of pharemiceutical. A homeopath suggested I take a remedy that would cause my blood sugar to spike in a small way and diminish this over a week until my pancrease was processing insulin at the correct levels again. Placebo or not, my blood sugar stabilized and I have not had a problem since. It is similar in a broad way to the idea of vaccinating against a flu virus. You give the patient a dose of the virus (dead cells) that stimulate the body to react and correct the problem. In my case, it was training the body to react to a stimulus in a costructive way. It did not leave me without a gall bladder nor possible kidney damage from a long term chemical dose. Good doctors and good homeopaths will someday meet near the middle. There are clearly more cases where doctors and science are a better choice but why throw out the baby with the bath water. Your approach seems to border on a religous application of science regardless of the outcome. Take the cholesterol medications that were recently revealed to cut cholesterol but not reduce plaque buildup. The companies that sell the stuff knew about it for over two years as per their "scientific studies" but didn't bother to tell anyone. It was revealed by an independent researcher (read competitor) and the FDA is investigating. Poor application of science there no? But that does not make all science bad does it?

Homeopathy has worked in cases where natural or normal bodily healing functions are in need of a little prodding. To attempt to apply it accross the board (AMA style) is ludicrous. The is a time and place for surgery, accute illness medications, etc. If your body is tweaked by externalll influences such as poisonings or horendous diet and can be steered back to its normal processes through homeopathy, why not? To say it will or will not cure cancer or malaria etc is a misinformed approach. Western medicine has a lot to learn from other traditions. For example, Arab doctors check on 16 different aspects of a pulse. There is more out there than science has examined, studied and added to the codex. Any good doctor will tell you that a person getting well or not depends on more than science can define.

As you like Jigglehead. It is not a cure-all and nothing is.

It about taking up the A&* for no reason.

What is the homeopathic solution for a gunshot wound? Or internal bleeding? Or, is that what chiropractors are for? After all, they can cure deafness! Is that supposed to be a nonsequitor? That's like saying, "This rubber body mallet won't fix my carburetor so all body detailers are worthless".

Homeopathy doesn't work overnight so it does not fit the current mindset of mainstream America. "Fix me doctor".

Yeah. That's the belay off the top of the Davis/Holland route right?

If you are at all interested in learning more about the dangers we are all talking about, PM me and we can set up a phone call. Seriously, it's always fun to talk about mountains.

Yes. Please do post a TR in the Oregon Cascades Forum. Your style of writing seems honest and fun. Don't be intimidated by the infighting amoungst the natives. They only attack each other unless directly provoked.

Keeping a GPS warm and functional in that same 70mph gust can be a challenge. You have to keep it warm from the start and that involves zippers and strings and stuff. I always put my map in a large ziplock folded open to the pertinent area and tuck it, (don't worry Sherri, I have to eat and there is no room left), in a large pocket. I also keep my GPS and compass on different strings around my neck so I can get a bearing off the GPS, put it inside my coat, and follow the bearing by compass. I also used to have a Suunto watch/altimeter but it got wet.

You have already broken it off. Wow. Cold. Which brings up my cheif complaint with GPS. It has to be warm to work. I too have successfully used compass and altimeter for decades. However, when I got a GPS for Christmas a few years ago, I started carrying it with just to check it out. In one instance, I marked crevasse crossings. This was very useful in a whiteout at one such crossing on the way down. I will always ADD it to my gear for winter ascents at least.

Oh great! Now Tvash and ASHW_ are getting romantic........

Or carry a snack size zip-lock and utilize body cavities.

W Montana is big. Missoula area (see Pipestone Mntring) has the Bitterroots, Fred Burr canyon many routes, Blodgett canyon Swan slabs easy, Blodgett falls WI2+ or 3 depending on conditions. Birdwoman falls in Glacier Park WI3+ WI3+ 4 pitches by Thompson falls (forget the name) Out of Bozeman Hylite canyon.

Probably more of a liability thing of erring on the side of caution. I'd guess a policy of calling a rescue to cover their asses would be the norm these days. If things turned out bad, it would be that "dumb ass patrols fault" for not initiating a rescue in a timely manner. Bingo. Just visualize every politician in Oregon reviewing how they are going to react. Also visualize every ski patrol and SAR meeting where the topic "What to do with missing climber reports" comes up. It is a media circus. They have to be hyper reactive or risk getting roasted. Of course, they will probably get roasted no matter what they do.

"Nothing could have prepared me for that night on the ledge in a bivy sack with Jack, freezing rain falling and Jack puking only sometimes outside the bivy sack." Journals from Montana

Ketch or Catbirdseat would love to speck that out. Where are you guys?

Hey Pitts, Well done! Thanks for posting.

Keep it warm. Take reading glasses.

Have you considered taking a wing up and sailing off? That's just like flying a kite.