Ed_Hobbick

Face climbing isn't crack climbing, granite isn't sandstone and indoor isn't outdoor; it seems pretty obvious. Besides Stone Gardens does have an outdoor climbing area. Is the UW rock real? Does it even matter?

When and for how long? I have some time off starting tomorrow and could join you. What kind of climbing are you planning on doing? I've driven through Colorado but never climbed there. Looks like a nice place.

I could go.

Looking for partners for cragging or alpine. Anywere, anyday/s within 6 hours of Seattle. Have car, rack ect....

I'll be off and up for some climbing next week 7/17-7/22.

With the terra-pass acting as a vandalism deterrent, perhaps, given enough time, insurance rates would drop and the resultant savings could then be passed on to the Chicago Climate Exchange.

Instant coffee in cold water to get the day started.

There is a spike at the bottom of the scramble section that would work if it is still solid. I'd think that it would be though it's been several years since I've been up there. At the top a hip belay would work given the low angle. Intermediate pro wouldn't be needed considering the climb length, angle, difficulty, ect.

You were probably on-route. I don't have a picture though. It's just a long way. You just keep going up and then hook way around and right into the obvious gully an then to the top.

I was just reading in the Smith Rock guide book about this. It says that if your going to be doing an extensive top-roping session to use your own biner. It implies that lowering off and then a couple of top ropes through the chain is fine.

Hey. I'm working on Sunday, but I'm off most of next week so maybe we can get out then.

I looking to head up there on Saturday around noon. If anyone is interested in going with let me know.

Both the East Face and the East Ridge are totally primo if for different reasons. They are just amazingly moderate and airy. Definite classis of super high quality.

"I suggest going out to the nearest pub and getting completely, and utterly, wasted. Make sure you smoke at least 1 pack of unfiltered Camels. Get the full ashtray, pour a drink in it and then pour the mixture into a water bottle. When you get home (ideally around 3:30am) stick the vile mixture into your freezer. Put on your best gortex and thermal layer. Climb in it. At 5:30am get out, drink (chew?) the mixture and go run the biggest flight of stairs you can find. Run until your heart threatens to explode. Your dehydration caused be the alchohol should adequatlely simulate what you may experience at higher altitudes. Your lung capacity should be sufficiently impaired by the smokes to simulate an oxygen poor enviroment. The freezer episode should adequately replicate a bivy. Drinking the booze/but mixture should simulate your lack of appetite.... Oh - once your finished your workout, go to work (to replicate the long walk out)." - Greg Hamilton

If she's having the most fun she is the best climber in the world.

You could say that Hillary got Tenzing to the top and be equally subjective.

I've been thinking of heading up there. Thanks for the conditions info.

How about Wednesday.

Hang In there.

If you sprayed it with WD-40 the symbols on the axe might contrast better with the metal. Mabey you've tried that.

I'd think that you could injure your hand using the brute force jam method. My hand is still sore 48 hours after climbing Pices in Index. I figure it's my technique, next time I'm going to try to get a little more weight on my feet. This is probably obvious to you. The numbness though... hmm, I'd be careful. I'd imagine that it is really hard to say whether there is any lasting damage or risk of some kind of repetitive stress injury.

Vasque Sundowners come in a narrow size.

...nice

I could go sometime. I'm usually off during the week though.

Wednesday or Friday would work best for me.