Stefan

Went up Snowking via the West Route. This route is slightly less distance than the Kindy Ridge route and has about 1500 feet less in elevation gain. However, no trails exist. The four of us left from the Slide Lake trailhead at 7:00a.m. and went straight uphill through the brush to the pond at 4800 feet. Some flagging and tree slashes could be found, but they were rare and not much help. We continued on and up following the somewhat bouldery ridgetop to the summit of Ottabot (5897)where the summit of Ottabot had one minor and short class 5 slabby section that could be aided by a tree before a short scramble to the summit. We then dropped to 5200 and continued on the direct ridge to Snowking. The most difficult part of the ridge was between point 6100 and point 6597 where we mostly stayed to the south of the ridge. We continued on staying to the south of point 7015 and traversed to the north of point 7425 before dropping down to the glacier and traversing around point 7400+, and then an easy scramble up to the summit. The snow was in excellent condition the whole day with only about 2 inches of depth with each step I want to point out I was wasted by the time I got to the summit, and yet we were only half way. Views were really nice, but I took a nap. We then reversed the whole scenario but instead of following the ridgeline back we stayed on the snowy north slopes all the way to the 5200+ pass between Snowking and Ottabot--and I recommend the snowy north slopes if you decide to try this route up becuase it is less tedious. We came down the brushy steep slope right back to the cars. I was exhausted by the time the day ended. 12 hours round trip. Stefan 6/8/2003

Stefan's been watching Dr. Phil again. I am SOOOOO into Dr. Phil. He lays down the shit. When I was laid up for 4 weeks with my bad ankles, I saw him every day. He makes Ophrah look like Donahue. Many of you youngsters probably don't even remember Donahue!!! Yes, Dr. Phil talks about relationships alot--but that is IF you want a relationship. Once again, women in general have to have a relationship to have sex.

Ladies- Please send all hate correspondence to: Stefan P.O. Box 69 Imanidiotforsayingthis, WA. 98522 Trask: I am married, and my wife doesn't visit cc.com. So I don't have to worry about potential baggable future women who visit this site--i.e. Lawgoddess,Minx, Icegirl. In addition I don't have to worry about the wrath of my wife! I will say one good general thing about women. They can multitask better then men.

lawgoddess: I am ugly and married. Been married for 11 years now. Sex is satisfying, albeit not as often as I would like.... Satisfying sex would probably be twice a month as a single person. Women just don't put out becuase they do want that "relationship" thing. Women just don't know how to separate sex from relationships. The way I see it three possibilities exist. It's nice to have a relationship with a female and not have sex. Us guys call that friendship, and yes, this is satisfying. Its also also nice to have sex and not have a relationship. Yes, this is satisfying. Its also nice to have sex and have a relationship. Yes, this is satisfying. Men can do all three. Generally, women on the other hand can only do two of the three above. There's something about the female brain being wired wrong.....

I guess it depends on how ugly you are. If you are ugly, you will probably get more sex in a relationship. If you are one hot dude/babe, then you would probably get more satisfying sex in the single life.

I like this line in the article: "But Luke Laeser, 29, who spent two months last year affixing the route's 380 bolts, says the route is just too dangerous without bolts." Hugh? Then why climb it? I thought climbing was dangerous. If I had that attitude, then I would be bolting Beckey class 4 sections. Beckey class 4 is SCARY!

Walmart can do anything they want--so long as it is legal. Good for them to try to make more money by catering to the Spanish speaking people. I guess I have a problem when it comes the government. Government can't do everything, and if I expected the government to be more service orientated, then I would have to pay more taxes for that service. Anything sold in Canada MUST have items labeled in both English and French (don't quote me on this). I wonder if you learn more French that way.

This thread smells of the French. The French hate English in their country. If you are a tourist in France.....you better speak French........

Anna will know when the time is right to go back to climbing. Hell, I broke both my ankles about 2 weeks after Goran's accident from my own rappeling accident. I still have physical and mental problems. I am not in the right mind yet to do any rappelling--but I have gone out several times and done mountaineering trips which suits me fine right now. Why rant on people? I just don't get it. Aren't these called accidents? Climbing is dangerous--now matter how skilled you are. Alex Lowe died in an avalanche. Should he have known better than being in that area on Shishapangma? He rolled the dice and came up unlucky. Scott Fischer died probably from the onset of some altitude sickness. Should he have turned around at the "turn around time?" He rolled the dice and came up unlucky. We can all make mistakes. Sometimes we roll the dice and we come up lucky, and unfortunately sometimes the dice will show snakeeyes or boxcars. I bet, even Greg W has rolled the dice.

Whiplash, Were all the gates open? (Sometimes they close them) Thanks! How was the climb on Barbara???

I hope Jeremy had a good time. That's what's climbin is all about! After all he was using my down jacket!

The fastest way/most painless way you speak of Bill is the best option if you are doing just South Twin. I agree with that. But I would like to do a traverse of the Twin Peaks range from the South Twin going south--to Barbara Peak, so getting back to my car is a logistical problem...... P.S. Anybody had access problems with Crown Pacific and the gate at Hamilton????

You can kind of see what I am talking about on page 42 of Beckey. The ridge I am talking about is to the right of the basin on page 42. The basin is to the right of the west ridge on page 42. On the USGS maps the ridge I am talking about kind of ends at 6100 feet to a "basin" which leads to the summit. The USGS shows that it may be class 5ish from 5600 to 6000 feet and I didn't know if anyone knew about this section. I asking becuase the road goes to 4100 feet with brush ending around 4800 feet. That would only mean 700 feet of bushwacking for this peak! This is why I am so curious about this "little" west ridge.

I am looking at the photo for the roads, but the USGS map definitely shows another ridge--although not as prominent as the one people climb. Still, has anybody climbed it?

I can't believe no one has mentioned the NE face of Davis. That is one big sucker of a face!!!!

There appears to be two west ridges of the South Twin. The northerly WEST RIDGE, most people climb. However, I am interested in the southerly WEST RIDGE. A road appears to go to 4100 feet on this ridge from satellite pictures. Has anybody been on the southerly of the two WEST RIDGES for South Twin?

The dank mossy factor is PART of the climb and the problem to solve that presents itself to you. I am not a tree hugger. I am also not a bolter...if I can't climb something without my own physical abilities, then I should not climb it. The only reason you probably want to remove the mossy factor is to make the climb easier or more enjoyable. Hell, alot of people climb becuase it is NOT easy and sometimes it is NOT enjoyable.

Sorry, i just reread. I thought you were doing the South "Twin" Sister. Have fun though. Nice skiing...

I am very interested in that peak this year. Can't go this weekend though....maybe next weekend. Please report the conditions when you get back.

I have been up this peak--the tourist route. I took the tram to the top. There is a three story building on top complete with a restaurant, nice viewing deck, and stuffed polar bears. And don't forget the postcards!

I am not a skier. But I am interested in terms you guys used. What is: JIB or jibbing? a Pocket Rocket? Twintips? just curious. thanks.

Sounds good guys. Looks like they let you back in the U.S. -- that surprises me.

I was in Zermatt last year with Vegetablebelay for 10 days climbing peaks around there. PM me if you want detailed information--although over the phone I would be able to provide more detailed information.

Did any of the various landowners give a reason for the closure?

Hands up to Scott on his first post. He posted something about skiing in the "freshiezone" adding to the quality of the website. On the other hand, people spray his report. If you don't like his reports, why do you "sprayers" respond and give his posts attention if you are annoyed by it so much? What makes a quality trip report worthy of this site?