Stefan

Would you disagree that universal telephone service has been a substantial net economic benefit as well as saved the lives of thousands (one need only look to 911) Universal telephone service has benefited many people. I don't know about the economics of it of though if it really was beneficial. Humans have a way of being flexible. I look at third world countries now where the technology of cell phones has helped these people in definite rural areas--but they are paying for it themselves without other people subsidizing it through government intervention.

I philosophically disagree. Water you need to live. Electricity or some form of heat you need to live a temperature. I have always thought telephone service is NOT a required utility to live--and should NOT be a public utility.

I have never thought that we should have ever paid for a rural charge--there was some tax on your bills for that. I have thought that if you wanted to live in a rural area, then you gotta pay for those services. Such as buying more gas to go back and forth. Your choice. If you want to live away from the areas that don't have natural gas--so be it. Same with bandwith... Remember, I am still unsure of what Net Neutrality means.

So this "net neutrality" thing is that the telcos are deciding which sources of information are faster than others by charging a tiered pricing to the sources of information?

My hobby is trying to maintain these two: http://www.vidilife.com/index.cfm?f=media.play&vchrMediaProgramIDCryp=D2257024-2F29-49E7-9020-F

England 2 Portugal 1 Germany 2 Argentina 2 (OT to PK's and Germany wins) Brazil 3 France 0 Ukraine 0 Italy 1 then..... Germany 2 England 0 Brazil 2 Italy 0 then.... Brazil 2 Germany 1

I am one of those ignorant Americans. I do not understand Net Neutrality. Whatever it means, I just hope the governments stay out of it. Let the market decide this one.

Thank you sir for posting!!!! Stefan

Just becuase it is named, does it mean it is a peak? What about all those points that will be named in the future?

Sux! I do it every time!

So you mean to tell me you are angry at the dude who climbed the peak before you and slid down the path he created?

Rove is innocent. But who outted Valerie Plame?

I do not know if this information helps for the investigation, but when I climbed Scott Peak by Index on May 2006 of this year, a person signed in the register on September 21, 2005 as Roger Jung. I know he was reported missing in October 2005.

2nd one. looks like Rainier and the clouds are melting into one.

Damn. I am hoping you have a speedy recovery Kurt. I need you to come and cut down a tree down in my yard this coming winter!

I like the shovel as a pot. Cool.

Mount Triumph North Face Central Rib. Still looking for a low IQ person for a FWA? http://www.pbase.com/nolock/image/57035177

Very commendable efforts by Mark Westman. My condolenscenses to the family and friends.

I was on Denali in 1995 and my friend went shirtless for about one minute at the place where they had that camp in the hole for several days in the book Minus 148. ...it was only about minus 50 at that time when we were there.

Wilderness. I think there are more climbing opportunities in Switzerland though...but that place does not have the "wilderness" feel for it. But Alaska kicks all ass.

I agree. Becuase the rock I hear is so bad in quality.

What? It's your birthday? Dude you did not tell me. Are you working?

TO: The guy who had the accident on Yellow Jacket Tower MESSAGE: I know you are going to read this thread. I am sorry for your accident. I am happy that you are alive and I wish you a successful recovery. I have been there. I hope you continue climbing after you recover.

So, when did you move here from Colorado? The brush and downed trees and worse than most cross country areas around Index. Seriously. Index brush is pretty bad.

If you do the Rat Creek goup my recommendation now is to start at the Stuart Lake trailhead and walk the abandoned road east, and keep traversing. Yes, there will be some up on the way out, but you will avoid all the brush bashing. We did the standard SW face route in Nelson's book. Pretty solid route.