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I file the tops of the frontpoints to recreate the chisel shape from the factory. For other points, I file the front and back edges.

It seems you're considering a scenario where your second is unconcious, or at least unresponsive, and he won't unweight the rope. History shows that the actions of Simon Yates --when he was in a similar situation-- eventually made his partner a lot of money. Cut the rope.

E-rock, you don't know what you're spraying about. I wouldn't classify the City as a "sport climbing" area, though there are some fine sport climbs there. Depending on the time of the season, the place will be swarming with Wyoming-ites, Idahoans, or Utahns, but no one 'round here would claim the City was in Utah. Your statement that "Most routes end with a healthy runnout on difficult moves" is absurd. And "more character than most of the other sport climbing areas in Utah"? There are dozens of climbing areas in this state, and many that are very unique and beautiful --with "character" you could say. But, back on topic, the City ain't even close to Corvallis. You'd drive past at least six climbing areas enroute. The rock is very featured for granite. Climbing can be done year round, but spring and fall are best (it's hot in summer, and cold in winter).

You got stars upon thars

Cumbaya, my lord . . .

I guess it's reassuring that if your $399.00 bibs fall apart, you can return them easily.

I guess you're saying that John Davis is "tiresomely literal-minded"? A cynic might say "There is no better way to launder corporate multinational largesse than giving it to the movement that is confronting it." — John Sellers, in a Financial Times special report, October 15, 2001. Oh yea, John Sellers is the director of the Ruckus Society that got $15,000 from Patagonia in 2001.

forrest_m, do you see a contradiction in Patagonia supporting the Wildlands Project that, in the words of John Davis (editor of Wild Earth) "Does . . . The Wildlands Project advocate the end of industrial civilization? Most assuredly. Everything civilized must go" and selling clothing made from man-made fibers? Wouldn't it be more consistent to simply dismantle the Patagonia company if they really wanted to support Wildland Project objectives?

"Crunchy Conservatives" actually aren't crunchy, but soggy instead. The moniker is an oxymoron like "pop punk", "instant classic", or "great fast-food". But it probably reflects the fact that most US citizens aren't at the extremes on the bell-curve of political thought.

Bluewater. Better than anything and American made. 'nuf said.

Why can't I vote twice?

It's worth checking out Pinnacles National Monument for a little sporty climbing.

Beck, my facts are straight. I know where funds have gone for this, and past, years. I prefer to donate to groups of my own choosing, and resent an "eco-tax" on any of my purchases.

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There are many great boots being made nowadays. The bottom line remains whether they fit your foot, or not. I'm partial to Tecnica boots because they fit and they're light (I've got a pair of Altitude Plus. The Bio-Flex GTX is well regarded). Also, the company has been very kind to me whereas other companies were rude.

istimata@istimata.com will now start receiving email from the John Birch society.

BOHICA. From MRNP Climbing Proposal Info , "Cost Recovery does not pay for actual SAR missions." IMHO, $35 is absurd. I'd want a climbing pass and a damn good lap dance for that much money.

Whistler-Blackcomb lift ticket: $43. Do they at least kiss you first?

Well, that "very [un]nice guy" has a new personal under "Men seeking Men" on yahoo!. The group wanted attention, right?

It's a website of "muslimin!!!" who took credit for the bombing in Bali in October.

Well, istimata@istimata.com has a new account under "blowupboy" at bigmuscle.com (thanks for the URL beefchub).