obwan Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 This thread is definitely not PG 13. Was that a modified BD Tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Using the word "mentor" anywhere in a partner-related post is itself a warning sign. Â well there are two things here: 1. Being uneducated and being inexperienced (usually remedied with age) 2. Being a dumbass (there doesn't seem to be a cure for that, regardless of age/experience/education) Â Of course, when you combine these two items, you usually have a problem you'd rather avoid. Â So I don't think that the word "mentor" has anything to do with it. There are some really excellent mentors on the site who have helped people learn the basics during the life span of CC.com. Â Â There may be some people who are good teachers on this site, but 100% of the time, someone who posts up using a variation of the phrase "I'm looking for a mentor" is sketchy and best avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that perhaps there's a developmental disability in play here, something along the Asperger's to autism spectrum maybe? Sounds like there's been issues with taking direction, so it may not be as simple as taking someone out and showing them some pointers. Something needs to happen though, because Josh is bound and determined to get out in the mountains. I don't know what sort of organized support there is for this, but I think more is needed than a basic mountaineering course or a trip up the South Arete of SEWS. Â Josh, as a bit of advice, Chris McCandless is not a role model, he's a dead clueless fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotly Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I don't know what sort of organized support there is for this, but I think more is needed than a basic mountaineering course or a trip up the South Arete of SEWS. Â Even basic courses require raw material to work with. He should start someplace like here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 I leave for a bit and now Josh has Asperger's. Poor kid.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hey, I don't even play a doctor on cc.com, its just that reading his trip reports strongly reminded me of a couple high functioning autistic kids I've known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009  NWHikers.net - View Forum - Trail Talk - Favorite Backcountry Comfort Item  i love real dick !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Are you volunteering to be his "mentor" Choada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazz Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) NWHikers.net - View Forum - Trail Talk - Favorite Backcountry Comfort Item  i love real dick !!  i just fell out of my chair and spewed merlot all over the carpet and through my friggen nose! that awesome! thanks I really needed a laugh today!   Edited July 14, 2009 by tazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Are you volunteering to be his "mentor" Choada? Â And who'll start off the bidding for the film rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Hey, I don't even play a doctor on cc.com, its just that reading his trip reports strongly reminded me of a couple high functioning autistic kids I've known. Â Thst's because I do have high functioning autism..... no seriously.... but don't worry, it's not that bad. Today Mark taught me how to climb cliffs and all that good stuff, we didn't get into using cams and such, at Mount Erie there's little bolts you can hook your tubular webbing into, and he showed me how to set up anchors, personal anchors, belaying, repell, and all that good stuff... tommorow I might do more. Edited July 15, 2009 by Josh Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 oh jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchuck71 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I'll second that. I also just noticed a request for partners for Rainer this weekend and to that I will add another...."oh Jeez". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 You guys don't know my technical skills, so I don't think it's fair to judge me. I have practice on knots, and I've been to Camp Muir twice, second time I did not feel the altitude. I have the gear, the strength, the knot skills, and am responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazz Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I commend you for being honest Josh!!!! I know thats not an easy thing to announce for you. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchuck71 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 A few of the things missing from your list Josh are experience and patience. I admire your ambition Josh, I really do. I recall when I was starting out and I knew no one who climbed let alone a person willing to be a mentor. I spent a lot of time reading books on technique and technical systems and spent alot of time practicing these on small cliffs and boulders and trying things out. I did alot of things that probably could have killed me but I was lucky and I eventually met people who were experienced and I learned from them. Years later I even braved taking a ration of shit from my partners for taking a mountaineering class as a way of having an objective party teach me more and checking the systems I was already using. I guess what I am saying Josh is that you need to gain experience and work your way up to harder and more commiting routes so that you are making decisions based on experience and sound judgement instead of youthful enthusiasm. When you head out with a bag of ambition and lack the skills to back it up you put not only your life in danger but also your partners lives and ultimately the lives of the people that either come out to retrive your body or attempt to rescue you. I have been climbing for over 20 years and involved in Mountain Rescue and I am still learning new skills Josh. The best advice I can offer you is to keep in mind that the mountains are not going anywhere buddy. Take your time, learn your skills, have patience and spend many years climbing responsibly. Â "There are old climbers and there are bold climbers, but there are no old bold climbers" Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_H Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Whatever. Don't listen to this old fart. Put some duct tape on your feet and start sending shit with some of that tubular fucking webbing. Start making first autistic ascents. Â There's plenty of old bold climbers. Unfortunately there's plenty of old climbers that are full of shit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosterson Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 You guys don't know my technical skills, so I don't think it's fair to judge me. Â And you've learned how to spell "technical" since you started this thread! Â Thst's because I do have high functioning autism..... no seriously.... but don't worry, it's not that bad. Â Oh, did you get one of those creams that keeps the rash in check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Bosterson is making fun of the kid with autism. New low. Â I agree with Pete: Go for it, Josh! Live and learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Bosterson is making fun of the kid with autism. New low. I agree with Pete: Go for it, Josh! Live and learn! Ok, but I will be very safe, I have other guys with me that will have radio's, maps, and all the other essential gear. If it's too dangerous, we could always turn around, were going with someone experience and has been to the top before. Edited July 15, 2009 by Josh Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I commend you for being honest Josh!!!! I know thats not an easy thing to announce for you. :-) I try to be honest, but sometimes my point of view can at times be I guess what you might describe a little crazy.... for ex. Calling nwers crazy sometimes... but I guess as you say, because they care, or atleast that's your reason. And I appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 oh jeez Parden me for having Autism, parden me for being a human..... parden me .... ok I'm done. Well anyways I couldn't help that part of me.... or are you saying that because I made it public? Awww it's ok, I'm just kidding on this post. I like the second oh jeez... never heard that one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 we all have our "disabilities". even Bill Gates. Â mpaired social interaction Not responding to name Not look at people Not smiling - note that normal newborns do not smile for several weeks Avoid eye contact Not liking cuddles Lack of imaginative play Lack of social play Inability to make friends Lack stranger anxiety - this develops within the first year. Lack separation anxiety - once this develops (first year), when mother departs normal infants are upset. Independence - doesn't seek help or interact with others. Plays alone Unprovoked attacks on others Verbal communication problems Inability to sustain conversation Appears deaf at times Language stereotyped Repetive language Unusual language Not talking - many autistic infants are mute, or become mute after initially making sounds. Echolalia - only parroting what they hear (many normal infants also do this). Confusing pronouns - mixing up "I", "you", and "we" or similar words. Nonverbal communication problems Obsessions Unusual or severely limited activities and interests Repetitive movements - rocking, hair twirling Inflexibility with highly specific routines and rituals Overly focused attention on specific objects Lines things up Sensory symptoms Hypersensitivity to sensory stimuli - e.g. taste, sound, etc. Reduced sensitivity to pain Extraordinarily sensitive to sensations Self-mutilation Early symptoms of possible autism Regression - negative change from normal early development into impaired abilities; about 20% of cases have a regression Delayed development - slow to speak No babbling by 12 months No gesturing by 12 months No single words by 16 months No two-word phrases by 24 months Loss of language skills already acquired Loss of words Loss of social skills already acquired Tantrums Hyperactivity Savant abilities - rare gift of very unusual abilities in music, math or other areas. Â Â be safe, have fun Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Lewis Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Thanks! It's when people judge me for having it that sometimes annoys me, but it was mostly when I was much younger. So far I got 5 people, just one more needed for the two ropes teams! Edited July 15, 2009 by Josh Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Well at least I hope you're not in to self-mutilation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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