sean_beanntan Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Two men have been rescued from the Red Wall climbing area of Smith Rock State Park. KTVZ-TV reports 24-year-old Ian Wallace Carlsen of Puyallup, Wash., called 9-1-1 at about 6:45 p.m. Saturday to report that he and 22-year-old Russell Scott Howard of Gresham were stranded. Both had been rappelling and had underestimated the amount of rope they needed to descend the wall. Carlsen was stranded about 250 feet from the bottom and Howard was stranded about 200 feet from the bottom. Deschutes County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue members climbed to the top of the Red Wall and lowered two mountain rescue members over the edge . The stranded men were attached to the mountain rescue members and lowered the rest of the way to bottom of the Red Wall. Neither was injured. -- Associated Press Link: http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2010/11/gresham_man_rescued_smith_rock.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? Edited November 8, 2010 by pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 everyone should have to free-solo the 20 feet down to the lower anchor on super-slab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkW Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? They probably figured it was cheaper and easier to just call for rescue than it was to leave a couple of their shiny new cams behind. I'm sure we will soon hear from the media how smart and well prepared these dudes were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitchaserCJB Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 If that's the case they need an oldschool Oregon beatdown. I'm sure the Bacon guys would do it for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hell, at Bacon I've seen folks use their cells for basic belay signalling. That did make me want to do some beating, but the one closest to me was just too good looking for such punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wimsey Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? perhaps they climbed a sport route up to the bench at the top of super slab and tried to rap with one rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? perhaps they climbed a sport route up to the bench at the top of super slab and tried to rap with one rope thus my: "everyone should have to free-solo the 20 feet down to the lower anchor on super-slab!" probably more like 10 feet though if you have a 60 m rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 even if they climbed a sport route they still have ways to get down. Heck if they did climb a sport route it is even easier to get down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denalidave Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hell, at Bacon I've seen folks use their cells for basic belay signalling. That did make me want to do some beating, but the one closest to me was just too good looking for such punishment. Did you catch his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Why? Does the wife know you're trolling for dates. Dude, stay out of those caves...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemp22 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Seems to me this is a clear case of "sport rappelling" newbies... probably walked to the top and tried to just rap off using a single shiny new rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimsey Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 even if they climbed a sport route they still have ways to get down. yes, people have gotten into and out of these jams for decades, before cell phones. makes you smarter, or makes you find a new sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? perhaps they climbed a sport route up to the bench at the top of super slab and tried to rap with one rope well if they were sport climbers shouldn't they have lower themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimsey Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? perhaps they climbed a sport route up to the bench at the top of super slab and tried to rap with one rope well if they were sport climbers shouldn't they have lower themselves the bolted climbs left of super slab are ~300 ft long. I actually have no idea what route they climbed or descended. Just seemed like a possible scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 i don't understand, i'm assuming they had trad gear? perhaps they climbed a sport route up to the bench at the top of super slab and tried to rap with one rope well if they were sport climbers shouldn't they have lower themselves the bolted climbs left of super slab are ~300 ft long. I actually have no idea what route they climbed or descended. Just seemed like a possible scenario. i didn't know sport climbers knew ow to rap, i thought they just listened to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrasrock Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I was down there on Saturday climbing at Northern point, we spent about a hour watching the light show on the Redwall area, from what we could see that they were on Helter Skelter about where is makes a turn to the right or route to the left. I do not have the new climbing book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 You can walk off the Red Wall, but its faster to rap. but not if you need to get rescued I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 how do you walk off superslab w/o having to pull a silly hard (though short) move up that steeepe step above the rap anchor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostCamKenny Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If that's the case they need an oldschool Oregon beatdown. I'm sure the Bacon guys would do it for free. they'd be chased away from beacon by the yocals the second they returned to the parking lot if they even thought about calling for a rescue out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvallisclimb Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 but its faster to rap. Just based on my own experience... ANY route at Smith that does not top out on a summit it is quicker to walk off NO MATTER WHAT, than rap! (MY only exception is the cinnimon slab area if it is clear enough to toss ropes down and rap than yes you might beat someone walking off, please though if its busy walk down cocaine gully) Now I know Smith routes are often set up to rap but please PLEASE walk off if you can! SERIOUSLY IF IT IS NOT A SINGLE PITCH SPORT ROUTE PLEASE FIND THE WALK OFF. Oh and you climb a route with a walk off, and didnt walk off, YOU didnt climb the route! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrox Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 how do you walk off superslab w/o having to pull a silly hard (though short) move up that steeepe step above the rap anchor? I don't know anyone that walks off Superslab. It's not considered a walk off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 how do you walk off superslab w/o having to pull a silly hard (though short) move up that steeepe step above the rap anchor? I don't know anyone that walks off Superslab. It's not considered a walk off. Not true. I have walked off it many times. You climb left down into the gully behind it. then up and off. Maybe a 5.3 move at best. Super easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If you don't walk off Red Wall, you miss the cool bee tree, and the opportunity to climb at the sweet little crag at the very top that is hidden away there with the bees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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