"Everest " the movie

[dougd]

Meru was really good I thought.

 

No plans to see the new Everest movie. I've read the books etc and figure I know enough about the story, and what the mountain has come to already.

 

d

[ScaredSilly]

Interesting perspective by Scott Fischer's wife. I think there are several messages here. When one becomes a "public" figure there is a loss control over their image. It is unavoidable. Just look at what happens when one becomes involved with politics. One has to have a thick skin as do those close to them.

 

It is good that she is focusing her efforts on what she can control. Even if Wikipedi is a PITA it does show one can make a difference.

 

As for the events, there will always be different views. And regardless if a movie is made it will bastardize the events. No ifs, ands, or buts. That is Hollywood.

 

[ivan]

That is Hollywood.

as a history teacher, i'd also argue: that's just history. like it or not, there's no such thing as an unbiased, unemotional, unequivocal account of an event involving human beings. we instinctively feel there should be an objective history, but human instincts are shit )

[Woodcutter]

Crap movie, nearly as depressing as the book.

[ivan]

wasn't it supposed to be depressing? pretty certain only monty python or mel brooks could make it otherwise

[JosephH]

I thought it did a fair job visually depicting folks putting lives at risk commercializing the hauling of incompetent people up and down fixed lines. What it failed miserably at was explaining pretty much anything about what was shown and especially the fact no one should be in that business and that it's no place for people without the requisite alpine experience.

[Ben Beckerich]

Which book?

[ivan]

"my pet goat"

[dougd]

And, finally, this...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/29/travel/nepal-everest-limits-feat/index.html

 

Finally someone gets wise and puts an end to what has been, in my opinion, a diminution of this great mountain.

 

d

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Or maybe you're just an asshole?

 

Oh, an asshole? I am not the one endorsing profiteering from someone's death, and traumatizing living members of the family. That's exactly what you are doing. So to be frank- go fuck yourself with your self righteous attitude.

 

ggk making friends as usual, and not just on Spray.

 

 

[Ben Beckerich]

Finally someone gets wise...

 

Ahh, no... That's fuckin' stupid.

 

Self determination, bros. That's what climbing is. If you're against it, you're against climbing, and you're a hypocrite.

[ivan]

why not flip conventional wisdom on its head n' charge kids n' senior citizens twice the adult price?

[Woodcutter]

"my pet goat"

Excellent diaphragm-work-out-chuckle-fest

 

@Ben

Into thin Goats. John Krakauer

[glassgowkiss]

And, finally, this...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/29/travel/nepal-everest-limits-feat/index.html

 

Finally someone gets wise and puts an end to what has been, in my opinion, a diminution of this great mountain.

 

d

 

Not going to fix a thing. What kills people is inexperience. Guided trips facilitate inexperience. The only remedy is to ban guided trips. If someone can afford to pay 100K for a guided trip up on Everest, they also can afford to be guided up on 7K peak. Do you really think getting to a top of something like Aconcagua with a guide yields enough alpine/high altitude experience building? People, who pay for guided ascents simply do not go through enough development in the alpine. And the moment shit hits the fan (like storms) they simply fold and die.

[ivan]

And the moment shit hits the fan (like storms) they simply fold and die.

so then you've killed stupid rich people - am i just channeling my inner robespierre or do i not see a serious problem here?