Obama and his Lying Issues

[Fairweather]

Why stop there? Our system is totally fucked. I want private companies to compete and sell me products like on demand electricity, drinking water, sewage, and garbage pickup.

 

In many places they already do. Although I'm not sure why you would want someone to sell you sewage.

Edited December 4, 2013 by Fairweather

[JasonG]

Did anyone's opinion change through this fun exchange?

[rob]

Did anyone's opinion change through this fun exchange?

 

Mine did. I'm in agreement with FW on this one; we should kill people when they hit age 70. This solves both the health care crisis AND social security.

[Fairweather]

Mine really has too. I now believe that our health outcomes should be equal no matter what. Even if we've worked very very hard, done well in school, saved and invested wisely, and we've exercised every day really hard and avoided foods that make us get chubby and poop on the meadows like TTK and vices that blacken our lungs we are all in this together. So I should be happy to pay for someone else to pay nothing to actually be more equal than me and put off fixing my house because this is what is best because the simple people like Rob told me that this is what is the most fairest of all.

Edited December 4, 2013 by Fairweather

[olyclimber]

CHECKING.....YEP STILL SUCKS.

 

 

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[AlpineK]

Welcome to the 21st Century

 

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[olyclimber]

[ivan]

KISMET

[rob]

You look nothing like I had imagined.

 

You see, this is exactly the kind of repartee I expect from the rest of you. Take notes, people

[prole]

Mine really has too. I now believe that our health outcomes should be equal no matter what. Even if we've worked very very hard, done well in school, saved and invested wisely, and we've exercised every day really hard and avoided foods that make us get chubby and poop on the meadows like TTK and vices that blacken our lungs we are all in this together. So I should be happy to pay for someone else to pay nothing to actually be more equal than me and put off fixing my house because this is what is best because the simple people like Rob told me that this is what is the most fairest of all.

 

 

"Whaah!" Get over it.

[prole]

We could have 10 health care systems for the cost of the failed wars you supported.

[AlpineK]

10 is the base of the decimal system most people use unless you're a binary robot

 

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[glassgowkiss]

Mine really has too. I now believe that our health outcomes should be equal no matter what. Even if we've worked very very hard, done well in school, saved and invested wisely, and we've exercised every day really hard and avoided foods that make us get chubby and poop on the meadows like TTK and vices that blacken our lungs we are all in this together. So I should be happy to pay for someone else to pay nothing to actually be more equal than me and put off fixing my house because this is what is best because the simple people like Rob told me that this is what is the most fairest of all.

That is a load of shit plain and simple. Actually illnesses are very democratic and serve their dishes to all kinds. Just walk into any hospital and see for yourself. The question I have is: why in the hell families should suffer financial hardships, just because someone is sick and maybe dying? I personally know 2 people, who lived as healthy as you can, both are dead now due to cancer at young age. Both families suffered hardships due to medical costs.

[JasonG]

There will always be bad things that happen to healthy people, but according to the CDC 75% of all health care expenditures in this country are related to chronic illness, many of which are preventable.

 

I think it would certainly be a good idea to put some financial incentives towards eating well and exercising, but I suspect that most would think that this would be too intrusive on the part of gov't.

[Fairweather]

CBS News Update. Looks like I'm not alone--or even holding any sort of minority point of view: (except here, of course. )

 

Turning Obamacare into a "political win" will be an uphill climb at this point: a CBS News poll conducted in mid-November showed that just 31 percent of Americans approved of the law, while 61 percent disapproved. Approval of the law had reached its lowest point yet recorded in CBS News polls and had dropped 12 points in just one month. The poll showed that fewer Americans view Mr. Obama as honest and trustworthy and fewer Americans approved of congressional Democrats' job performance.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-democrats-rehabilitate-obamacare/

[ivan]

how many of the 61% who disapprove of the law favored the old status quo i wonder?

 

you're a tard-tard if you think anybody here is a raging o-care fan as...uh...nobody (?) has said they prefer it over single payer?

[Fairweather]

how many of the 61% who disapprove of the law favored the old status quo i wonder?

 

you're a tard-tard if you think anybody here is a raging o-care fan as...uh...nobody (?) has said they prefer it over single payer?

 

Uh, yea, well that bubble was not one of the choices. And after this dem-o-crat debacle it won't be for a long, long time.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Fairweather

[prole]

Yay. Maybe a Republican will get elected.

 

 

[prole]

Aw, who am I kidding, you stupid fucks will be lucky to survive your own primaries.

[glassgowkiss]

There will always be bad things that happen to healthy people, but according to the CDC 75% of all health care expenditures in this country are related to chronic illness, many of which are preventable.

 

I think it would certainly be a good idea to put some financial incentives towards eating well and exercising, but I suspect that most would think that this would be too intrusive on the part of gov't.

If your own health, well being and feeling good is not a good enough incentive, do you think fining people for being fat will? How about fining people for being stupid?

My incentive is feeling good at almost 50. However shit happens. How about educating people, and regulating better food industry.

[Fairweather]

Yay. Maybe a Republican will get elected.

 

 

Christie in 2016!

[prole]

Catch the Fever!

[Crux]

Hoping to thread his way through the eye of the RWNJ needle.

 

No problem.

[rob]

CBS News Update. Looks like I'm not alone--or even holding any sort of minority point of view: (except here, of course. )

 

Turning Obamacare into a "political win" will be an uphill climb at this point: a CBS News poll conducted in mid-November showed that just 31 percent of Americans approved of the law, while 61 percent disapproved. Approval of the law had reached its lowest point yet recorded in CBS News polls and had dropped 12 points in just one month. The poll showed that fewer Americans view Mr. Obama as honest and trustworthy and fewer Americans approved of congressional Democrats' job performance.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-democrats-rehabilitate-obamacare/

 

61%? Isnt that also what the disapproval rating of the GOP is?