Liberal Tricks!

[Nitrox]

Do you people whine like this in real life?

 

 

 

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Do you people whine like this in real life?

 

 

 

It is a nation of whiners.

[klenke]

Let me see if I can sum up this thread...

 

"I'm a fucking prick and you're a fucking moron."

 

Good day.

[Fairweather]

Fairweather:

 

Didn't you argue that I was being irresponsible, taking a young nephew to protest the Iraq war on the eve of our invasion? Four or five years later you acknowledged that the invasion was probably based on false pretenses after you saw it on TV, and now are you are complaining about somebody marching with "commies?"

 

Seriously.

 

No, I don't recall the part about your nephew at all. But I do recall Jim gushing here his participation in the "World Can't Wait" march a while back--an event sponsored and organized by American communists. He's free to do this of course, and I even salute his idealism; but it's somewhat disingenuous for him to later re-veil his true beliefs for the sake of argument or semantics. If you accept that physical participation in public protest or mass-demonstration is, for lack of a better word, a consummating act, then it seems safe to call someone who marches with fascists a fascist--and someone who marches with communists a communist.

 

Seriously.

[prole]

 

Sounds reasonable...

 

The World Can’t Wait organizes people living in the United States to repudiate and stop the fascist direction initiated by the Bush Regime, including: the murderous, unjust and illegitimate occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan; the global “war of terror” of torture, rendition and spying; and the culture of bigotry, intolerance and greed. This direction cannot and will not be reversed by leaders who tell us to seek common ground with fascists, religious fanatics, and empire. It can only be possible by the people building a community of resistance - an independent mass movement of people - acting in the interests of humanity to stop, and demand prosecution, of these crimes.

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Do you people whine like this in real life?

 

 

 

It is a nation of whiners.

 

LOL

 

you're way funnier than someone who actually comes up with this shit on purpose

 

[pink]

i swear tvrash talking tina and kkkkkkkkkkkk r the same dude.......

[j_b]

As long as we're on the topic of the Koch brothers,

 

we have been on that topic for a while but you have unsurprisingly done your best to avoid it.

 

 

what distinguishes their activities from those of say, George Soros, other than the nature of the causes that they support.

 

Are you opposed to all rich people spending money to promote ideas and causes that they believe in, or only those who promote ideas and causes that you happen to dislike?

 

You are being disingenuous or you are not quite as smart as Bill makes you out to be, because nobody could seriously pretend that faking grassroot movement through astro-turf organizing or financing fake expert "studies", and financing much more ($100's of millions) of the same type of shady practices, are welcome in a democratic society.

 

Soros means very little to the left. He is not like the legions of wealthy libertarians/robber barons have been to the Laissez Faire zealots throughout time and most especially (as far as we are concerned) over the 40 years.

[j_b]

Sounds reasonable...

 

The World Can’t Wait organizes people living in the United States to repudiate and stop the fascist direction initiated by the Bush Regime, including: the murderous, unjust and illegitimate occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan; the global “war of terror” of torture, rendition and spying; and the culture of bigotry, intolerance and greed. This direction cannot and will not be reversed by leaders who tell us to seek common ground with fascists, religious fanatics, and empire. It can only be possible by the people building a community of resistance - an independent mass movement of people - acting in the interests of humanity to stop, and demand prosecution, of these crimes.

 

It does sound reasonable, but Fairweather and JayB stood for these horrible Bush policies during all these years.

[Fairweather]

http://www.seattleaic.org/leaflets/statement_on_world_cant_wait

 

"It is no secret, however, that RCP [Revolutionary Communist Party] activists make up a large portion of WCW. Three out of the four initiators of the WCW call are well-known RCP supporters. The RCP’s paper, Revolution, has given prominent coverage to WCW events and the RCP has thus far given WCW its uncritical backing. In short, “helped initiate” is a misleading understatement. Since WCW’s founding in the summer of 2005, its circles have expanded somewhat beyond the small RCP (no doubt a result of much hard work on the part of rank and file RCP supporters). "

[KaskadskyjKozak]

http://www.seattleaic.org/leaflets/statement_on_world_cant_wait

 

"It is no secret, however, that RCP [Revolutionary Communist Party] activists make up a large portion of WCW. Three out of the four initiators of the WCW call are well-known RCP supporters. The RCP’s paper, Revolution, has given prominent coverage to WCW events and the RCP has thus far given WCW its uncritical backing. In short, “helped initiate” is a misleading understatement. Since WCW’s founding in the summer of 2005, its circles have expanded somewhat beyond the small RCP (no doubt a result of much hard work on the part of rank and file RCP supporters). "

 

j_b's kind of people

[j_b]

Certainly not. RCP types are goons like you, Attila.

[Fairweather]

http://www.seattleaic.org/leaflets/statement_on_world_cant_wait

 

"It is no secret, however, that RCP [Revolutionary Communist Party] activists make up a large portion of WCW. Three out of the four initiators of the WCW call are well-known RCP supporters. The RCP’s paper, Revolution, has given prominent coverage to WCW events and the RCP has thus far given WCW its uncritical backing. In short, “helped initiate” is a misleading understatement. Since WCW’s founding in the summer of 2005, its circles have expanded somewhat beyond the small RCP (no doubt a result of much hard work on the part of rank and file RCP supporters). "

 

j_b's kind of people

 

I can't remember which of the Meme brothers it was who, even while denying their communist beliefs, put forth Republican Spain as their quixotic utopia. Brilliant.

[j_b]

Of course, you should congratulate yourself on making a mission statement sponsored by the RCP look good. Dimwit.

[tvashtarkatena]

i swear tvrash talking tina and kkkkkkkkkkkk r the same dude.......

 

If i was only smart enough to play that stupid

[billcoe]

Let me see if I can sum up this thread...

 

"I'm a fucking prick and you're a fucking moron."

 

Good day.

 

LOL!

[prole]

http://www.seattleaic.org/leaflets/statement_on_world_cant_wait

 

"It is no secret, however, that RCP [Revolutionary Communist Party] activists make up a large portion of WCW. Three out of the four initiators of the WCW call are well-known RCP supporters. The RCP’s paper, Revolution, has given prominent coverage to WCW events and the RCP has thus far given WCW its uncritical backing. In short, “helped initiate” is a misleading understatement. Since WCW’s founding in the summer of 2005, its circles have expanded somewhat beyond the small RCP (no doubt a result of much hard work on the part of rank and file RCP supporters). "

 

Holy fucking shit, they published stuff about the event in their paper?! Wow, maybe if I spent an entire day scouring Seattle I could find one! What about MIM, CPUSA, and the FSP? what of their diabolical connections? Never mind that you can fit the combined leadership of these organizations into a fucking Waffle House! It's a warped testament to your loose grasp reality that you're focused on groups with all the power of a Star Trek fan club while cheerleading policies that have resulted in the deaths of thousands of American soldiers, hundreds of thousands of "others", squandered trillions of dollars, and left the country dumber and meaner, you know, in real life.

[Jim]

Shoot - I would have demonstrated with the RNC against the wacko Bushie policies - I'm not picky.

[kevbone]

This very important thread needs some old school....

 

[j_b]

The right wing nutjobs are actually surprised to sound like extremists compared to anyone who opposed Bush's policies. Go figure.

[Jim]

My bad.

 

Miami, Florida (CNN) - The ex-chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, Jim Greer, is now apologizing for stoking fears about President Obama's address to school children last year.

 

Greer, now under indictment on fraud and money-laundering charges after being drummed out of the state party, also accused "many within the GOP" of having "racist views."

 

In September 2009, conservatives raised questions about the motives of president's back-to-school speech, which was beamed into many of the nation's classrooms. Greer was among them, charging that "taxpayer dollars are being used to spread President Obama's socialist ideology."

 

"While I support educating our children to respect both the office of the American President and the value of community service, I do not support using our children as tools to spread liberal propaganda," he said then in a statement that made waves around the country.

 

Greer is now apologizing for those comments.

 

 

"In the year since I issued a prepared statement regarding President Obama speaking to the nation's school children, I have learned a great deal about the party I so deeply loved and served," Greer said in a statement Tuesday to CNN and other media outlets.

 

"Unfortunately, I found that many within the GOP have racist views and I apologize to the President for my opposition to his speech last year and my efforts to placate the extremists who dominate our Party today. My children and I look forward to the President's speech."

[prole]

Rightwing political operators seem to have a knack for these kind of "deathbed" conversions.

[Off_White]

Sounds like a twelve stepper who's hit step nine if you ask me.

[Nitrox]

Rightwing political operators seem to have a knack for these kind of "deathbed" conversions.

 

As opposed to the Democrats who continue to lie even after the jury finds them guilty?

 

(CBS/AP) Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., was indicted Monday on federal charges of racketeering, money-laundering and soliciting more than $400,000 in bribes in connection with years of trying to broker business deals in Africa.

 

The indictment in federal court in Alexandria, Va., lists 16 alleged violations of federal law with prison terms totaling as much as 235 years. Jefferson is charged with racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money-laundering, obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

 

He is the first sitting congressman to face charges under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prohibits corporate bribery overseas.

 

The indictment claims Jefferson bribed Nigerian officials to pave the way for U.S. businesses — deals in telecommunications, oil fields, sugar, fertilizer and waste recycling plants, reports CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. In return, he demanded monthly payments, profit shares and stock for his family-owned businesses.

 

The scheme was complicated, and Jefferson set up a front company to hide the money, prosecutors said.

 

"But the essence of the charges are really very simple: Mr. Jefferson corruptly traded on his good office and on the Congress," said Chuck Rosenberg, the U.S. attorney for eastern Virginia.

 

In August 2005, investigators raided Jefferson's home in Washington and found $90,000 in cash stuffed in a box in his freezer.

 

The 63-year-old Jefferson, whose Louisiana district includes New Orleans, has said little about the case publicly but has maintained his innocence. He was re-elected last year despite the investigation.

 

Joseph Persichini, who leads FBI's Washington field office, called on the public to "take the time, read this charging document line by line, scheme by scheme, count by count. This case is about greed, power and arrogance."

 

Read The Grand Jury Indictment

 

Jefferson, in New Orleans on Monday, could not immediately be reached for comment. His lawyer was planning an afternoon news conference.

 

Two of Jefferson's associates have already struck plea bargains with prosecutors and have been sentenced.

 

Brett Pfeffer, a former congressional aide, admitted soliciting bribes on Jefferson's behalf and was sentenced to eight years in prison. Another Jefferson associate, Louisville, Ky., telecommunications executive Vernon Jackson, pleaded guilty to paying between $400,000 and $1 million in bribes to Jefferson in exchange for his assistance securing business deals in Nigeria and other African nations. Jackson has been sentenced to more than seven years in prison.

 

Both Pfeffer and Jackson agreed to cooperate in the case against Jefferson.

 

The impact of the case has stretched across continents and even roiled presidential politics in Nigeria. According to court records, Jefferson told associates he needed cash to pay bribes to the country's vice president, Atiku Abubakar.

 

Abubakar denied the allegations, which figured prominently in that country's presidential elections in April: He ran for the presidency and finished third.

 

The indictment does not name Abubakar. But it describes Jefferson's dealings with an unnamed "Nigerian Official A" who was a high-ranking official in Nigeria's executive branch and had a spouse in Potomac, Md. One of Abubakar's wives lived in that Washington suburb.

 

Court records indicate Jefferson was videotaped taking a $100,000 cash bribe from an FBI informant. Most of that money later turned up in the freezer in Jefferson's home.

 

In May 2006, the FBI raided Jefferson's congressional office, the first such raid on a congressman's Capitol office. That move sparked a constitutional debate over whether the executive branch stepped over a boundary.

 

The raid's legality is still being argued on appeal. House leaders objected to the search, saying it was an unconstitutional intrusion on the lawmaking process. The FBI said the raid was necessary because Jefferson and his legal team had failed to respond to requests for documents.

 

Some but not all the documents seized in the raid have been turned over Justice Department prosecutors.

 

Among the specific charges listed in the indictment:

 

# In 2001, after having assisted Jackson, Jefferson informed Jackson that he would no longer continue to use his official position as a congressman to promote iGate's business unless payments were made to a Jefferson family-controlled business, including a monthly payment of $7,500; 5 percent of iGate's gross sales plus certain capital raised; and options for up to one million shares of iGate stock. iGate agreed to the arrangement, and the following year Jefferson arranged a meeting between Jackson and a "prominent member" of the Subcommittee on Telecommunications, Trade, and Consumer Protection.

 

# In 2003 Jefferson promoted iGate's services to Nigerian businessmen and, without Jackson's knowledge, solicited fees estimated to be worth $1 million as well as a percentage of revenue and stock from the same company partners.

 

# In 2004 Jefferson filed with the House Clerk a travel form in connection with a trip to Africa during which he promoted iGate and its business ventures to government officials in Nigeria and Cameroon, acknowledging that the travel was connected to his duties as a House member but failing to disclose his and his family's financial interests in the discussions.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/04/politics/main2882231.shtml

 

I know, the Democrats are just lying and taking bribes for the good of the people.

 

 

 

[Fairweather]

Let's not forget those Democrats still languishing at the bottom of the not-yet-drained swamp. Another kooky-Dem district has spoken: