Dougie, I'm baaaaaack!

[Fairweather]

Beholden to state employee unions. They're gonna get theirs--even if it kills the rest of us.

 

[video:youtube]

[tvashtarkatena]

Dino Rossi; the Man with the...where's that plan again?

 

He lost because my 3 precinct team got 137 infrequent Dem voters to cast for Gregoire...just enough to send him back to the political sump, where he belongs. Guess he'll need to find another state to fleece, thanks to good ole Uncle Trashie.

Edited April 3, 2010 by tvashtarkatena

[Fairweather]

Dino Rossi; the Man with the...where's that plan again?

 

He lost because my 3 precinct team got 137 infrequent Dem voters to cast for Gregoire...enough to send him back to the political sump, where he belongs.

 

Yes. And some of them even voted in Whatcom County too! The tactics you and your leftist goons employed represent the manner in which democracy dies.

Edited April 3, 2010 by Fairweather

[tvashtarkatena]

Our tactics were to offer rides to the polls. It worked.

[Fairweather]

Our tactics were to offer rides to the polls. It worked.

 

No. Your tactics were to offer rides to the polls and lend assistance contingent on a predetermined vote cast for Gregoire. And that is illegal.

Edited April 3, 2010 by Fairweather

[Fairweather]

Anyhow, Rossi is gonna kick that vacuous mom in tennis shoes out of her ceremonial post come November.

[tvashtarkatena]

OMG, you think 3rd times a charm in politics?

 

It's not. He'll do even worse, this time.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

The Supreme's are gonna tear that shit up.

 

Obama's articulate speech begins and ends with a teleprompter. He's the empty suit we all new he'd be.

[Fairweather]

We'll see. By November, corporations will be paring health care benefits just to stay afloat--and the working voters will be reminded that Murray brought in that little kid as a stage prop for Obamacare. And let's face it: she's a few marbles short compared to, say, Cantwell--who I actually like.

[prole]

Our tactics were to offer rides to the polls. It worked.

 

No. Your tactics were to offer rides to the polls and lend assistance contingent on a predetermined vote cast for Gregoire. And that is illegal.

 

This reminds me of that time you called "citty-suhns' array-uhst, citty-suhns' array-uhst" on Marylou for contemplating voting in the Republican primary and then Rush Limbaugh put out a nationwide call for his followers to do so in the Democratic primary the very next day. That was funny.

 

[video:youtube]

Edited April 3, 2010 by prole

[StevenSeagal]

Yes. America has experienced leftist pogroms in the recent past--as you cheered them on.

 

 

A brainwash-cult wacko torches his own compound and martyrs himself and his followers against the oppressive government trying to seize the weapons he was stockpiling to use in a future war against the government and that's a "pogrom" by the government.

 

 

[StevenSeagal]

Anyhow, Rossi is gonna kick that vacuous mom in tennis shoes out of her ceremonial post come November.

 

Are you back to using "one man, one vote"? What happened to all the bloodshed you were planning?

[prole]

We'll see. By November, corporations will be paring health care benefits just to stay afloat

 

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48YaKhJRFyA&feature=related

[StevenSeagal]

We'll see. By November, Republican/Tea Bagger owned corporations will be paring health care benefits just to stay afloat have something to point to and say "SEE!" while screwing over their employees in order to make a political statement

 

Fixed

[Fairweather]

Despite his ego and bluster, TTK's thought and action is decidedly more nuanced than the Jim/Prole/j_b cadre's commissar-like regurge. Nags without a clue, really. As for Doug and Steven Nine Hundred Segal, well, nothing more than lapdogs lacking any ability to reflect. Sad.

[prole]

It takes all kinds...to show you up for an idiot.

 

[prole]

Not that a 12 year old, glue-sniffing social studies student wouldn't do fine by himself...

Edited April 3, 2010 by prole

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Not that a 12 year old, glue-sniffing social studies student wouldn't do fine by himself...

 

Don't flatter yourself. You're not doing so fine.

[ivan]

others may disagree, but i'll posit fairyweather sure is entertaining when he goes off his meds

[prole]

others may disagree, but i'll posit fairyweather sure is entertaining when he goes off his meds

 

Is that what happened? I thought he just got home from maneuvers.

 

[StevenSeagal]

Despite his ego and bluster, TTK's thought and action is decidedly more nuanced than the Jim/Prole/j_b cadre's commissar-like regurge. Nags without a clue, really. As for Doug and Steven Nine Hundred Segal, well, nothing more than lapdogs lacking any ability to reflect. Sad.

 

It's 888. I already told you. And it's SEAgal. "Segal" sounds a little too Jewish,I'm Buddhist after all.

 

But anyway, back to numbers: for the coming war you've promised, let's just make it "300"

 

[Doug]

Despite his ego and bluster, TTK's thought and action is decidedly more nuanced than the Jim/Prole/j_b cadre's commissar-like regurge. Nags without a clue, really. As for Doug and Steven Nine Hundred Segal, well, nothing more than lapdogs lacking any ability to reflect. Sad.

 

Actually you're wrong. The ability to reflect requires one to break through their dogmatic walls and see the truth. You Fairweather, are the epitome of the lap dog you describe. Poodle boy.

 

BTW, Obama is less than I expected, but still much better than his predecessor. As for Murray, well we can certainly do better. However, Rossi is just as much a stuffed suit (as KKKKKKKKKKKKKK describes Obama) as any of them.

[Stonehead]

Our tactics were to offer rides to the polls. It worked.

So, what’s Obama (and Rahm’s) plan? Bring illegal aliens under the sheltering umbrella of health care through immigration and employment reform, i.e., the amnesty for votes program?

 

It’ll be an excellent display of deceptive magic if Obama’s public relations team can transform the image of the electorate’s cynical eye to reflect the picture of the golden age of American prosperity called the American Dream.

 

It’s not considered polite these days to talk about America’s empire, despite the fact that we keep troops in 140 other countries, and the far from unrelated fact that the 5% of Earth’s population that live in the US use around a third of the world’s resources, energy, and consumer products. Like every other empire, we have a tribute economy; we dress it up in free-market drag by giving our trading partners mountains of worthless paper in return for the torrents of real wealth that flow into the US every day; but the result, now as in the past, is that the imperial nation and its inner circle of allies have a vast surplus of wealth sloshing through their economies. Handing over a little of that extra wealth to the poor and the working class has proven to be a tolerably effective way to maintain some semblance of social order.

 

That habit has been around nearly as long as empires themselves; the Romans were particularly adept at it -- “bread and circuses” is the famous phrase for their policy of providing free food and entertainment to the Roman urban poor o keep them docile. Starting in the wake of the last Great Depression, when many wealthy people woke up to the fact that their wealth did not protect them against bombs tossed through windows, most industrial nations have done the same thing by ratcheting up working class incomes and providing benefits such as old age pensions. No doubt a similar logic motivated the recent rush to force through a national health care system in the US, though the travesty that resulted is likely to cause far more unrest than it quells.

 

More generally, what passes by the name of democracy these days is a system in which factions of the political class buy votes from pressure groups by handing out what the political slang of an earlier day called by the endearing name of “pork.” The imperial tribute economy provided ample resources for political pork vendors, and the resulting outpouring of pig product formed a rising tide that, as the saying goes, lifted all boats. The problem, of course, is the same problem that afflicted Britain’s domestic economy during its age of empire, and Spain’s before that, and so on down through history: when wages in an imperial nation rise far enough above those of its neighbors, it stops being profitable to hire people in the imperial nation for any task that can be done outside it.

 

The result is a society in which those who get access to pork prosper, and those who don’t are left twisting in the wind. Arnold Toynbee, whose monumental study of the rise and fall of empires remains the most detailed examination of the process, calls these latter the “internal proletariat”: those who live within an imperial society but no longer share in its benefits, and become increasingly disaffected from its ideals and institutions. In the near term, they are the natural fodder of demagogues; in the longer term, they make common cause with the “external proletariat” – those nations outside the imperial borders whose labor and resources have become essential to the imperial economy, but who receive no benefits from that economy – and play a key role in bringing the whole system crashing down.

 

One of the ironies of the modern world is that today’s economists, so many of whom pride themselves on their realism, have by and large ignored the political dimensions of economics, and retreated into what amounts to a fantasy world in which the overwhelming influence of political considerations on economic life is denounced as an aberration where it is acknowledged at all. What Adam Smith and his successors called “political economy” suffered the amputation of its first half once Marx showed that it could be turned into an instrument for rabblerousing. Thus the economists who support the current versions of bread and circuses labor to find specious economic reasons for what, after all, is a simple political payoff. Meanwhile, those who oppose them have lost track of the very real possibility that those who are made to go hungry in the presence of abundance may embrace options entirely outside of the economic realm, such as the aforementioned bombs through windows.

Riddles in the Dark

[tvashtarkatena]

Our tactics were to offer rides to the polls. It worked.

 

No. Your tactics were to offer rides to the polls and lend assistance contingent on a predetermined vote cast for Gregoire. And that is illegal.

 

First of all, there is no such law. But we didn't offer rides contingent upon anything; we didn't even ask who the voter was going vote for, although we certainly could have legally. No real need...they were all registered democrats who'd voted in at least one out of 4 past elections (but not all 4...frequent voters don't get hassled). Public records, bitch. I provided a wee bit of spanish translation both in an out of the polls. Challenged by an Rfuck...and perfectly legal. The Rfuck challenging a voter in a polling place was actually the illegal part, but he quickly slinked back into his hole after a brief conversation with one of our legal poll watchers.

 

Devil's in the details...you should learn them sometime. We won, you lost, fair and square. Rossi put up a good fight for a mental helium balloon.

Edited April 3, 2010 by tvashtarkatena

[AlpineK]

Fairweather spends hour studying the details of talking points emailed to him by Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. He knows his stuff