ZimZam Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 "conservatives knee capped would put an impish grin on my face." One must do this correctly. When knee-capping became the favorite form a retribution for the IRA, the Brits became quite adept at knee reconstruction. Then the Provo's learned to blow out the knee from the rear. Game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Rostenkowski (D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 The year you gave Obama is almost up--just like the unemployment rate. No response. You're not really gonna make me dig up your quote, are you? Just denounce your messiah as not up to the task, and we'll move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 The year you gave Obama is almost up--just like the unemployment rate. No response. You're not really gonna make me dig up your quote, are you? Just denounce your messiah as not up to the task, and we'll move on. Fairweather, no one responds to you because you're not worth responding to. Blocking or opposing Federal job creation and then decrying unemployment? It's really all too childish (and boring) for the rest of us. But seeing as with the rest of this thread, you're really only playing with yourself anyway, please continue smearing yourself with feces to your heart's content. Forgive us though if we give you a wide berth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Just denounce your messiah eww! strawman, you're other favorite bitch! the only folks i ever heard call the obama-lama the M word were sarah palin muff-munchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fairweather Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 Marion Berry (D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil K Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Re your latest cute find: Am I missing something- has anyone argued that it's OK for either side to be scumbags? No. FW, when are you going to a) stop lying and b) get a life? I feel worse about myself for even bothering to converse w/ you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 James Traficant (D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Could you please get to the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 The year you gave Obama is almost up--just like the unemployment rate. No response. You're not really gonna make me dig up your quote, are you? Just denounce your messiah as not up to the task, and we'll move on. Response. We as a nation have regained the respect of most of the free world. Capitol Hill? Still the cesspool it's been for years, R or D majority. Obama is not nor has never been my messiah. He was and is better that what he replaced and who he beat. Am I disappointed? Not really, there has been progress made. I never bought into the hype to begin with. Dig up your dossier on my posts to see if you can refute that, biatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 weren't those tricky-dick's damn near EXACT words in nixon/frost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever." by comparison Nixon only had 8 staffers convicted. the top 21 Reagan admin offcials convicted: 1. Lyn Nofziger--White House Press Secretary - Convicted on charges of illegal lobbying of White House in Wedtech scandal. The lobbying would not have been illegal had he not been White House Press Secretary. 2. Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger. 3. James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service. 4. John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing... 5. Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North. 6. Elliott Abrams was appointed by President Reagan in 1985 to head the State Department's Latin American Bureau. He was closely linked with ex-White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North's covert movement to aid the Contras. Working for North, Abrams coordinated inter-agency support for the contras and helped solicit illegal funding from foreign powers as well as domestic contributors. Abrams agreed to cooperate with Iran-Contra investigators and pled guilty to two charges reduced to misdemeanors. He was sentenced in 1991 to two years probation and 100 hours of community service but was pardoned by President George Bush... 7. Robert C. McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor, pled guilty to four misdemeanors and was sentenced to two years probation and 200 hours of community service. He was also fined $20,000. He received a blanket pardon from President George Bush... 8. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush... 9. Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations; 10. Carl R. Channel - Office of Public Diplomacy , partner in International Business- first person convicted in the Iran/Contra scandal, pleaded guilty of one count of defrauding the United States 11. Richard R. Miller - Partner with Oliver North in IBC, a Office of Public Diplomacy front group, convicted of conspiracy to defraud the United States. 12. Frank Gomez 13.. Donald Fortier 14. Clair George was Chief of the CIA's Division of Covert Operations under President Reagan. George was convicted of lying to two congressional committees in 1986. George faced a maximum five year federal prison sentence and a $20,000 fine for each of the two convictions. Jurors cleared George of five other charges including two counts of lying to a federal grand jury. Clair George received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President George Bush... 15. Rita Lavelle was indicted, tried and convicted of lying to Congress and served three months of a six-month prison sentence. 16. Philip Winn - Assistant HUD Secretary. Pleaded guilty to one count of scheming to give illegal gratuities. 17. Thomas Demery - Assistand HUD Secretary - pleaded guilty to steering HUD subsidies to politically connected donors. 18. Deborah Gore Dean - executive assistant to Samuel Pierce - indicted on thirteen counts, three counts of conspiracy, one count of accepting an illegal gratuity, four counts of perjury, and five counts of concealing articles. She was convicted on twelve accounts. She appealed and prevailed on several accounts but the convictions for conspiracy remained. 19. Catalina Villaponda - Former US Treasurer 20. Joseph A. Strauss - Accepting kickbacks from developers 21. Oliver North - He was indicted on sixteen felony counts and on May 4, 1989, he was convicted of three: accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and destruction of documents (by his secretary, Fawn Hall, on his instructions). He was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Gerhard A. Gesell on July 5, 1989, to a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours community service. His conviction was later overturned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Jeez j_b, it doesn't count against Republicans when the convictions are politically motivated and brought on by democrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choada_Boy Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Fairweather = Dumb Cunt. Why bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Fairweather = Dumb Cunt. Why bother? 'cuz dumb cunt still = cunt, which still = vaguely worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ted Kennedy - (D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. You do understand that "indicted" and "investigated" mean absolutely nothing--except maybe in certain countries whose political systems you seem to adore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 it means nothing for Kool-Aid drinkers and corporate shills like you who threatened bloodshed a few days ago if Obama did what he was elected to do, but it doesn't change that the Reagan administration had the most convicted officials ever; you know, crooks hanging from the government teat while teaching others about personal responsibility, doesn't it sound familiar by now. You didn't seem so concerned about due process when you vehemently supported your man Bush blatantly lying us into war, spying on Americans and clamping on liberties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 FYI: I didn't "threaten," I simply speculated on the response--since most Americans are against his proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Gary Condit (D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 The year you gave Obama is almost up--just like the unemployment rate. No response. You're not really gonna make me dig up your quote, are you? Just denounce your messiah as not up to the task, and we'll move on. Hey Fairweather, Although you're directing that at Doug, I also am on record as giving Obama a year before I passed judgment, so although it is early I'll be happy to respond. I'll be the first to admit that Obama has not done well in several areas, but not the same areas you would target, I'm sure. Basically, Obama has done a terrible job at keeping his own party unified, which is endemic to the Democratic party throughout recent history. The R's are a one note bunch, but the Democrats cover a much broader range of the spectrum. When I gave Obama a year, I was also under the assumption that in a year he would have managed to keep his party together and have actually passed much important legislation, and through this time we'd then be able to see if his policies were actually working, or not. However, so far between his own party's divisions and the Republicans policy of total obstruction through any means necessary and then accusing Obama of "doing nothing" and "failing", we have very little to go on besides speculation of what might be, and an opposition party that is doing an excellent job of demonstrating that its only interest in regards to this country is to regain power, even if it means preventing legislation that they themselves would otherwise find amenable from becoming law. Anything that happens that would make the country happier and more optimistic under Obama is not an option for the Republicans and their election chances. So has Obama failed? I'm still waiting. But at least, unlike you, I am not hoping for him to fail. If he fails, who wins? I realize you get all tingly thinking of political victory when Sean Hannity fills your head with visions of Sarah Palin leading us downward bound, but for the next three years, I'm instead hoping to see this country turn around and prosper, regardless of who it makes a hero. And I'm not hearing anything out of the Republicans, or Teabaggers (same?) that suggests they have anything in mind aside from an acclerated version of what put us in this place in the first place, as well as an unquenchable will to power. By the way, Condit wasn't convicted of murder (or anything else), was he? He may have been a cheating douchebag, but how about you observe your own rules, okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 how about you observe your own rules, okay? aw, SS is an optimist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fairweather Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 However, so far between his own party's divisions and the Republicans policy of total obstruction through any means necessary and then accusing Obama of "doing nothing" and "failing", we have very little to go on besides speculation of what might be, and an opposition party that is doing an excellent job of demonstrating that its only interest in regards to this country is to regain power, even if it means preventing legislation that they themselves would otherwise find amenable from becoming law. Dude; you've got to be kidding. The Dems have had a super majority for the past year. They could have done anything they fucking wanted to do--and they didn't. So please spare me the nonsense about 'those evil obstructionist Republicans.' My take? Obama, Pelosi, and, to a lesser degree Reid, have turned out to be a little too far left for the fickle constituents of the few remaining mainstream Democrats. Whether you and your tools want to admit it or not, Obama ran as a centrist. You and I both knew he wasn't, and the rest of America is only now realizing a case of buyer's remorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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