Kletterhund Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 That Friend looks to be an early 80's model... Here are some close ups of the patent pending models and check out that awesome nut job (slung v. un-slung)! Quote
Otto Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Kletterhund, do those have any markings on them? Thanks for posting the photo, they are cool. Quote
JosephH Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I think the progression on the Friends can be best seen in what kind of nut secures the ends of the axle. Mine were all stolen in the late 80's in front of my now wife's house. Always had them double slinged East coast style for horizontals and never had a complaint except for a #3 that exploded into a million pieces in Eldo once. Good thing it was backed up by a bomb nut. Quote
sobo Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I have those in doubles up through 3, and yes, I still use 'em! So, when we get around to going out to Lightning Dome, we can use my rack, mmkay? You have shiny stuff?? Mmmmmmmmm, shiny... Precious... My Precious... Quote
sobo Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Joseph's right. Look for the nut capping the cam axle. The early models (early 80s) had a hex nut. Later models (late 80s) had the cap nut with the Allen wrench socket, and came pre-slung. Lodestone's pics indicate a late 80s vintage. Quote
Kletterhund Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 No markings on these very early models other than the slightly askew: FRIEND PATENT PENDING MADE IN ENGLAND Additionally, as you can see, the location of the size stamp and orientation of script varied. I sent a second set (#1-#3) of these to Stephane in Corsica last year for his collection. Models earlier than these were likely given/bartered/sold directly from Mr. Jardine and known accomplices... Quote
MarkMcJizzy Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Models earlier than these were likely given/bartered/sold directly from Mr. Jardine and known accomplices... Not necessarily. I have a first shipment number 4 Friend. It was made in England by Wild Country. It has no marking what so ever Quote
Kletterhund Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks, I still don't have a first generation #4. I know they were released pretty soon after #1-#3... Do you recall if it came slung? I wonder if that was intentional or a QC issue? Anyway, thanks for the info! Quote
MarkMcJizzy Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 All Friends came without slings prior to about 1986. In August 1980, the trigger was changed from 0.18" to 0.235" Quote
MarkMcJizzy Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) That cam in the bottm photograph is probably circa 1982 to 1986. Prior to winter 81/82, the nuts did not have washers. You could date the cam above it by the diameter of the trigger bar Edited January 14, 2010 by MarkMcJizzy Quote
G-spotter Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 that irbis and spectre are about 15 years newer than the rest of that crap Quote
aussie69 Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 I went to jtree with some young punks from the gym. We stopped in at the climbing store where they have a museum wall of old hexes and rigid stem cams (friends). My buddies pulled me over, saying, hey, Mark, how come they got your rack on the wall? Honestly though, the only friend I still carry is my 4. It's a great fit between the 3 and 4 camalot if you are on a long offwidth like Moby Dick in the valley. Young punks?! ahhhh come on ol Marky! hell they had your rack, knee pads,old tape gloves and all dangling up there on the manikin with a sign that said please don't litter in our parks nicely hanging from its neck Just kiddin so when you going to post some pictures of the valuables up here? Quote
markwebster Posted February 18, 2010 Posted February 18, 2010 Austin, didn't know you could access this site from China! Yeah, you were a young punk back then...18 and never placed trad gear...look at you now. They've already got pictures of my rack up here...even older friends than mine. Gear is cool. In twenty years, your camalots will be old gear, and you will be the old timer. Come visit me in the nursing home, and bring some whiskey. Quote
sobo Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 Austin, didn't know you could access this site from China! Yes, you can. I did it back in December of 2005 when I went there to pick up my daughter. I just couldn't forget you fokkas, even when I was out of the country... Quote
kukuzka1 Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 when climbed bears breast pulled out by hand a simalar looking piton that scott p pictured earlier could be beckeys since in aug 1939 was one of his first first ascents ever. also summit register indicates that dose not get done much at all? Quote
Snowman_Jim Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 Finally got around to scanning this old slide. I'm sure the wooden piton is even older than the slide is, probably by quite a bit. But I guess you never know for sure. We came across it while climbing something in the Chamonix area, I couldn't tell you what it was we were on any more though. [img:left]http://www.snowman-jim.org/climbing/gallery2/d/1767-1/wood-piton.jpg[/img] Quote
Climb X Posted July 9, 2010 Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) When Greg Lowe designed the split or fan cam, it was acutally based on a bucket retreaval device that folks in old old England used when the rope attached to the bucket fell into the well and they had to get the bucket out. Good to see one of those things still around. Thanks for the pic. Edited July 9, 2010 by Climb X Quote
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