prole Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Here's something to consider: Is the initiative process even constitutional? Article 4, section 4, clause 1: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government". The authors were clearly terrified of direct democracy, and Washington's initiative process does subvert representative government to a degree. What do you think? Every democratic philosopher since the beginning has stressed the overwhelming need for an educated populace to make the system work. We're not fitting the bill. California's fucked for the simple reason that the population wants services, has voted for them through initiatives but doesn't want to pay taxes and has voted them down through the same process. It's a good thing we have such a high-quality public education system that is more expensive per capita than most industrialized nations. Yeah, so we should privatize it and subject it to the same pressures and incentives as the American health-care system! Quote
archenemy Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You know, I never realized how powerful gays really are. I mean, gays can pretty much crash planes and computers with mindpower. Cool. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You know, I never realized how powerful gays really are. I mean, gays can pretty much crash planes and computers with mindpower. Cool. Maybe they can fix our health care system. Quote
kevbone Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 If it was not for gay men....fat women would have nobody to dance with. Quote
ivan Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 It's a good thing we have such a high-quality public education system that is more expensive per capita than most industrialized nations. “The power of instruction is seldom of much efficacy, except in those happy dispositions where it is almost superfluous.” Quote
Sherri Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 You know, I never realized how powerful gays really are. I mean, gays can pretty much crash planes and computers with mindpower. Cool. Pfft, that stuff's easy for us, you know, with the gaydar and all. However, figuring out a seating arrangement for the weekly potluck where no ex'es are seated next to each other is a different matter entirely. Quote
Crillz Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 hmmmmm. Sherri, how was the rock this week/end? Quote
j_b Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Here's something to consider: Is the initiative process even constitutional? Article 4, section 4, clause 1: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government". The authors were clearly terrified of direct democracy, and Washington's initiative process does subvert representative government to a degree. What do you think? a republican form of government is a generic term that implies civic purpose in public affairs (i.e. with the greater good in mind), which is not contradictory with direct democracy. The initiative process isn't necessary flawed; the main flaws are in campaign financing and corporate media reporting. Quote
archenemy Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 You know, I never realized how powerful gays really are. I mean, gays can pretty much crash planes and computers with mindpower. Cool. Pfft, that stuff's easy for us, you know, with the gaydar and all. However, figuring out a seating arrangement for the weekly potluck where no ex'es are seated next to each other is a different matter entirely. I'm not even allowed at the table. Quote
Sherri Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 You know, I never realized how powerful gays really are. I mean, gays can pretty much crash planes and computers with mindpower. Cool. Pfft, that stuff's easy for us, you know, with the gaydar and all. However, figuring out a seating arrangement for the weekly potluck where no ex'es are seated next to each other is a different matter entirely. I'm not even allowed at the table. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 24, 2009 Author Posted September 24, 2009 I'm trying to work the required 'under the table' joke in here, but I got nothin. Quote
Sherri Posted September 24, 2009 Posted September 24, 2009 I'm trying to work the required 'under the table' joke in here, but I got nothin. While you're down there... Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted September 24, 2009 Author Posted September 24, 2009 Obedience is my watchword. Quote
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