Obama sucks as a candidate to be president-the why

[tvashtarkatena]

I'm going to have to agree here. I'd love to amputate the southeastern U.S. and set it adrift. Let those kooky cultists win the Civil War finally. Good riddance.

 

If years in the saddle = competence, then why is Gramps getting his ass handed to him by The Kid? Seems to me that if Gramps was so much more competent, he'd be winning, no?

 

But, alas, he's not. So, what Bill is saying, essentially, is this;

 

"Hey, I REALLY fucked up my campaign in just about every way one can, in contrast to my opponent, who has done a superb job despite his few years in politics, but if you elect me I promise I'll suddenly stop being an assclown and become a GREAT president!"

 

The solution, of course, for the 'confused voter', is to vote for someone who isn't even running anymore.

 

At least the Naderites are protest voting for a guy who's still in the race.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2008 by tvashtarkatena

[Hugh Conway]

why don't you edit that post Hugh.

 

Because I donated $50 to Obama and voted for him.

 

Fairweather is the one who's off to don the sheet at the Klavern.

[Fairweather]

Uh, ok other than the unfortunate end to Lincoln's Presidency, can you tell me "what happened"?

 

660,000 troops killed in an unnecessary war--along with an unknown number of southern civilians. Cities burned to the ground by a marauding general. Habeas Corpus suspended. Newspapers closed at gunpoint. Editors arrested. Slavery abolished? Yea right--in all but 4 northern states. Federal troops massacring civilians by the hundreds on the streets of New York. And even through all of this...still time for his troops to annihilate native Americans out west.

[Hugh Conway]

Uh, ok other than the unfortunate end to Lincoln's Presidency, can you tell me "what happened"?

 

660,000 troops killed in an unnecessary war--along with an unknown number of southern civilians. Cities burned to the ground by a marauding general. Habeas Corpus suspended. Newspapers closed at gunpoint. Editors arrested. Slavery abolished? Yea right--in all but 4 northern states. Federal troops massacring civilians by the hundreds on the streets of New York. And even through all of this...still time for his troops to annihilate native Americans out west.

 

[Fairweather]

Hugh. I'm going to ask nice--once. Knock that kind of shit off.

[Fairweather]

 

The niggers were freed?

[STP]

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

 

— U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864 (letter to Col. William F. Elkins) Ref: “The Lincoln Encyclopedia”, Archer H. Shaw (Macmillan, 1950, NY)

 

[Doug]

So, its ok for George Bush (you've said you are a supporter of him) to send our troops into an unnessecary war, suspend basic civil rights, etc.

 

Lincoln didn't really start the civil war did he? If my history is correct, the confederacy was in place by the time he was elected. Confederate troops troops fired upon and took hostages at Fort Sumter. Did Lincoln and his policies directly effect the transgressions for which you accuse? Fact is the war was well on its way to being over when he was assassinated.

 

 

[Doug]

PORTER! BAN OR BITCH SLAP THIS USER!!!!

[Fairweather]

So, its ok for George Bush (you've said you are a supporter of him) to send our troops into an unnessecary war, suspend basic civil rights, etc.

 

Lincoln didn't really start the civil war did he? If my history is correct, the confederacy was in place by the time he was elected. Confederate troops troops fired upon and took hostages at Fort Sumter. Did Lincoln and his policies directly effect the transgressions for which you accuse? Fact is the war was well on its way to being over when he was assassinated.

 

 

No one died during the attack. (One heart attack victim during the abandonment.) The fort was in South Carolina--CSA territory.

[Hugh Conway]

Hugh. I'm going to ask nice--once. Knock that kind of shit off.

 

I thought Jesse Helms was a great American? Is it you only like racist ignorant piece of shit politicians?

[marylou]

Now, now, you know FW likes to call names, but he does not like to be called names.

[Winter]

now now kids. we can play nice can't we?

[Jim]

Uh, ok other than the unfortunate end to Lincoln's Presidency, can you tell me "what happened"?

 

660,000 troops killed in an unnecessary war--along with an unknown number of southern civilians. Cities burned to the ground by a marauding general. Habeas Corpus suspended. Newspapers closed at gunpoint. Editors arrested. Slavery abolished? Yea right--in all but 4 northern states. Federal troops massacring civilians by the hundreds on the streets of New York. And even through all of this...still time for his troops to annihilate native Americans out west.

 

This makes the top five in your wealth of ignorant statements.

[Fairweather]

Now, now, you know FW likes to call names, but he does not like to be called names.

 

Racist isn't name-calling. It's an accusation.

[Fairweather]

Uh, ok other than the unfortunate end to Lincoln's Presidency, can you tell me "what happened"?

 

660,000 troops killed in an unnecessary war--along with an unknown number of southern civilians. Cities burned to the ground by a marauding general. Habeas Corpus suspended. Newspapers closed at gunpoint. Editors arrested. Slavery abolished? Yea right--in all but 4 northern states. Federal troops massacring civilians by the hundreds on the streets of New York. And even through all of this...still time for his troops to annihilate native Americans out west.

 

This makes the top five in your wealth of ignorant statements.

 

Which points do you contest?

[Hugh Conway]

Now, now, you know FW likes to call names, but he does not like to be called names.

 

Racist isn't name-calling. It's an accusation.

 

 

Fairweather said

It depends on what your definition of is is

[Doug]

Uh, ok other than the unfortunate end to Lincoln's Presidency, can you tell me "what happened"?

 

660,000 troops killed in an unnecessary war--along with an unknown number of southern civilians. Cities burned to the ground by a marauding general. Habeas Corpus suspended. Newspapers closed at gunpoint. Editors arrested. Slavery abolished? Yea right--in all but 4 northern states. Federal troops massacring civilians by the hundreds on the streets of New York. And even through all of this...still time for his troops to annihilate native Americans out west.

 

This makes the top five in your wealth of ignorant statements.

 

Which points do you contest?

 

Remember your context; that these things which happened at that point in history were Lincoln's fault because of his inexperience. And oh by the way, have you a response for the unnecessary war comparison between Bush and Lincoln? You seemed to imply that Lincoln got us into an unnecessary war and that was a bad thing, but somehow still believe that the War Bush got us into was necessary, but even if it wasn't it's still not bad?

[AlpineK]

Others have noted, but the first major presidential appointment McCain made was to pick Sara Palin. The decision he made really makes you question his judgment since once elected he'd have to make a ton of other appointments.

 

I don't care much for Republicans, but there clearly are a bunch of other Republicans (female and male) already in office with a lot more experience and a lot of better records kept on them.

 

Like it or not McCain's age puts him at a much greater chance of dying in office. If that happened then we'd have President Palin.

 

Even Colin Powell (a long time republican) is for Obama. A lot of people both democratic and republican respect him.

 

Here are two links where he explains his decision making process.

 

 

 

 

[prole]

In any event, Bill, I suspect you and I are voting for the same man and it is neither of these.

 

I think we know who you two dim-bulbs are voting for:

 

[video:youtube]

 

 

[dmuja]

 

I think we know who you two dim-bulbs are voting for...

 

 

This just in, in yet another dramatic last ditch move McCain is gonna dump Palin and put the other "that one" on the ticket instead. The maverick strikes again!

[AlpineK]

I like the wood splitting contest idea.

 

 

I can split a cord of wood faster than he can

 

 

[joblo7]

i'm so glad i am not at home for this 'fn zoo..fuck tv!!

[joblo7]

THE WAR fot the eggwhite house!! wtf!!!!!!!

 

that is a sick sick country!!

 

what a shame...

 

we owe that to them mf'n zionist media owners.

 

america the beautiful,raped, abused, misused and mf'n doomed.

[glassgowkiss]

Hang on to your guns and your free media. They're going to be under assault for at least the next 2 years if Obama wins.

free media was very nicely dismantled by your own GWB, there is nothing left to assult

 

 

It's also important to note Obama's comments regarding trade with Colombia during the last debate. FARC and their prime benefactor, Chavez, are going to be partying in the jungle on inauguration night and the good people of Colombia will get to look forward to another 70,000 dead in the name of "justice".

 

Chavez is from Venezuela you moron. different country. thanks again to gwb, who manages to resurrect soviets. maybe we should be talking about main issue- trade with communist china? why don't we talk about 526 billions of dollars in budget surplus under clinton turning into 1.18 trillion budget deficit under bush. let's start. you just keep repeating the same shit. you are lacking both the knowledge and intelligence.

I'll be the first to salute the man if I'm wrong

yeah, right. you might start with gwb, economy national security. you were wrong every time, but you never admit that you commie shit.

anyway, there is a sign "pigs for sale" visible from a bridge on h-wy 2 towards I-5.