olyclimber Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/382544_bookmanonline10.html?source=mypi I think this article nails it. Quote
Tokogirl Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 "And if that's how things play out, John McCain is doomed to be cast as the scapegoat by his fellow Republicans, in part because they never really liked him much in the first place." Self fulfilling prophecy?! Quote
AlpineK Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 In the old days republicans used to have the designation of being fiscally conservative. Penny pinching is a useful characteristic in somebody in charge of tax revenues. The problem is that it has nothing to do with cutting taxes and starting a war. Right or wrong on the war it does cost money. Today we seem to be a little short on money. Back in the 70s Washington State had Republicans like Dan Evans. From what I remember he did a good job as governor and backed important environmental issues in the state. Quote
rob Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 wow, great article. thx for the link, olyclimber. Quote
General Zod Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 In the old days republicans used to have the designation of being fiscally conservative. After Reagan ran up record deficits they swtched to moral rightiousness. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I think the author's dead wrong on a number of points. First: Palin. She'll be a humorous historical footnote, no more. She is one reason McCain's support is evaporating. I wouldn't be fooled by the 'rallies'. Think about who bothers to go to GOP rallies. I doubt you'd be able to swing a dead moose in the mob and hit a moderate. The GOP has become completely cynical. Since Reagan, it's been a party of 'what can we get away with this week?' and 'how can we fool the voters this time?'. The agenda has been to concentrate wealth and political power to a priviledged elite, and they were largely successful. They care only about what's good for the country club, not the country. Jesus, Dino Rossi is even trying to hide the fact that he's a Republican. You'll never here that would uttered from his mouth. Amazing. As for the GOP making McCain a scapegoat; that's just a liberal fantasy. True, he's not well liked amonst his own, but throwing an election? Get real. The GOP already blames Bush for our ills; they don't need a scapegoat, they've already identified the culprit. That's why virtually every Republican candidate is denying any connection to Bush right now. Fortunately, the country, with its rapidly evaporating 'wealth', no longer buys the GOP's agenda of robbing the middle class to give to the rich. People are weary of being screwed by HMOs, insurance companies, investment banks, drug companies, energy companies; in short, the GOP's corporate core. McCain's 'privatization/choice' message, which can be translated to 'it's your family against a multi-billion dollar corporation...good luck, pal.' is falling a bit flat right now. It looks like McCain's not going to win a single swing state this time. Hurray for our side, but we need some form of checks and balances, too, to save us from smoking too much of our own dope. Edited October 10, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 A bit closer to the mark in my view: Brooks on the GOP Quote
olyclimber Posted October 10, 2008 Author Posted October 10, 2008 you're sounding pretty tribal there Quote
billcoe Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 we need some form of checks and balances, too, ... please consider all the repub judges put in during this tenure the official checks and balances for now and lets move on. BTW, I think the article misses that we as a country need fiscal responsibility now more than ever. Obama gets it due to default, only because McCain hasn't been putting it on the top of the list of priorities. My opinion only. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 It's a well known fact that liberals eat their own children. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Why won't Obama just come out and tell us whether or not he's a terrorist? WHAT'S HE HIDING???? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Pat Robertson has called an emergency 30 DAYS OF PRAYER, everybody. On your knees, people. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 "Billy: the Early Years" will soon be in theatres. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Channel 33. In Jesus' name, send your blessed offering. Edited October 10, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 God doesn't heal the sick? We're his temple. Why would God allow the paint to peel on his temple? Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 The big difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is that the GOP has more convictions. Quote
prole Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Well I think it's finally clear, once and for all, that the Bush tax cuts have been an overwhelming success. Just my two cents. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Hi. Here's $600 we don't actually have. Thanks for your vote. Edited October 10, 2008 by tvashtarkatena Quote
prole Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 We're going to laugh about this someday. Hell, I'm cracking up already! Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 $600! That's 241 foaties! GOP: FUCK YEAH! Quote
prole Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 [video:youtube]-HkWi69RM6E I don't get it. Is this to suggest that critiquing past mistakes (even if in an unconstructive manner) at this point is somehow irrational, irrelevant, or in poor taste? Is it time, in both political parties' words, to fix the problem, not time to affix the blame? Historical amnesia on a grand scale is why we're in this mess; let's not be so quick to toss even these fools' most recent blunders down the "memory hole". Quote
olyclimber Posted October 10, 2008 Author Posted October 10, 2008 think of it as poetry. you are free to interpret as it as you will. another way you could look at it is that someone is applying the beatings, and another is accepting the money, and both seem satisfied with the arrangement. but that is just one take that occurred to me just now. Quote
RuMR Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 $600! That's 241 foaties! GOP: FUCK YEAH! why, that's the entire value of the stockmarket!?!? Quote
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