Dechristo Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 vicious guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 You sure your gonna wake up when you need too? Maybe you need something else? Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) I recommend a 12-guage pump-action shotgun, with a shorter barrel (~19 inches) and a real stock (not a pistol-grip). Â For home-defense, I believe a shotgun is better than a handgun for the following reasons: Â a) The shotgun's spray pattern is more likely to hit your target than a conventional round, especially considering you will likely be firing in the dark and under fearful/stressed conditions. b) A conventional round would be more likely to penetrate walls, possibly injuring family members or neighbors. c) Nothing beats the pure intimidation factor of the sound of a shotgun's pump action. Â Of course, an even better solution may be to move somewhere else, where you don't have to worry about home-defense as much. Â Guns are bad juju. Â good luck, R Edited July 29, 2007 by robmcdan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_like_sun Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Â Go to Canada if you are so f***ing scared of getting murdered....... Â Here's a thought....in America we have the right to bear arms, and the right to own a hand gun. This law has been around since antiquity. If you don't like it, why don't YOU move to Canada? Â Â Listen Mr. B, just because something has "been around since antiquity" doesn't mean that its still a good thing! Â Fear and violence just breed more fear and more violence. Â YOU REDNECK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No. 13 Baby Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 a) The shotgun's spray pattern is more likely to hit your target than a conventional round, especially considering you will likely be firing in the dark and under fearful/stressed conditions. Â I love when statements like this are made with no sense of irony whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I recommend a 12-guage pump-action shotgun, ... Â His wife may not find firing a 12ga to be tenable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 20-ga was enough for Cobain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 he was unable to defend himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Choada,  I seriously doubt that this is the proper forum to get an answer from, but here let me throw in my 2 cents.  This is an excellent pistol.  http://www.kel-tec.com/p3at.html  It is inexpensive, unobtrusive, easy to use, and requires little maintenance. It can fit into the pocket of your coat, or in a drawer out of sight. It's not the most gucci looking kit, but it is effective.  The best defense is just a good situational awareness, and knowing the right of law as far as your rights to use the firearm to defend yourself. I would say unless you feel like YOUR life or the life of someone you care about is threatened (at that very moment-not after the fact). You honestly believe those facts, and can articulate everything succinctly in a court of law, that you get on 911 and let the po-po do the job.  If you have a real hard on for being a crusader, then start testing with the various departments, and if you get picked up, you can do the job from the right side of the law.  Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I seriously doubt that this is the proper forum to get an answer from... Â Good luck. Â Um, yes to both of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 sad excuse for a thread......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 he was unable to defend himself  or unwilling?  wouldn't you shoot yourself if you woke up next to Courtenay Love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 she'd probably help in shooting-myself-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 oh yeah! forgot the suggestion: PLEASE GET A LIFE.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Sig Sauer P229 Â http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=8&productid=63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 CobraCommander, Â I'd respectfully disagree. Â I've carried a 229 as a duty weapon, and for a novice I wouldn't recommend it based on it's double action 10 pound trigger pull, lack of de-cocking mechanism, futzy safety, and not very agreeable for a woman's hand. It's a gucci pistol, or effective for a trained shooter. Price also becomes an issue when you are not going to be utilizing the weapon as much more than a paperweight. Â COBRAAAA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpa Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 This one is the best for the purpose of repelling intruders, etc. And, the sound of a shotgun slide is unmistakable, no voice should be heard (don't say anything), let the slide action's sound do the talking. Â FORGET the handgun. Too likely to either miss, or worse, hit someone else in the next house, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I'm not a gun owner, but if I were to buy one for home defence it would be a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macson Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 I don't personally use a gun for home defense (mine stay in a gun safe in the garage) but if I was going to keep one for actual self defense, and if I had no training, and if I actually believed I didn't need training there would be only one choice for me. A double action revolver. I have an older S&W Mod. 19 .357 mag that would do the job nicely. Â Shotguns will work, but they're somewhat unwieldy in the close quarters of a home. They also require cocking between each shot. I believe that if you are in a high stress situation that you will do exactly as you've trained to do under high stress conditions. I'd be concerned with a shotgun that you haven't trained under stress, and you may very well forget to pump a round into the chamber. Also, the spray of buckshot (or whatever load) means that anyone close to an attacker is going to get shot if you pull the trigger. Â With a double action revolver, all you do is point and shoot. No need to cock, almost nothing to break. Semi auto pistols are nice, but their not for someone looking for a simple solution with no training. Â My $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 If you're really in love with the idea of a shotgun, there are several semi-auto versions that nullify the pump gauge factor. Bennelli makes several decent models. I have an M1, and although I find it to be overkill, I can recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Here's a suggestion:Â GET OVER IT Â Sure. Just stand there and do nothing. Well, that's exactly what you did. Right? Â Actually, I argued with my boyfriend about whether we should do anything Sorry to hear you and your boyfriend aren't getting along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 How about a hand held digital recorder with the sound of a shotgun being pumped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Don't forget the laser pointer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 or try meditating 20 min every morning for an actual solution . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashw_justin Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 or maybe you could use The Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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