mountainmatt Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I am new to the area and hitting Vantage this weekend for the first time. Any suggestions on good routes around 5.7-5.10a? Quote
TrogdortheBurninator Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Sadly, most of the best routes are also the most popular. The ones that get a lot of traffic have way less loose rock and are often justifiably popular. Are you looking for cracks or sport climbs? Most people start at Sunshine wall because it has lots of good routes and gets sun. Any of the 3 and 4 star routes in the book are pretty good IMO. A few Suggestions 5.6 - Stokin the Chicken (hard 5.6 IMO) 5.7 - Seven Virgins and a Mule 5.8 - Crossing the threshold, Vantage Point 5.9 - Don Coyote, Tangled Up in Blue There are a bunch more too. PS, wear a helmet! Quote
mountainmatt Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Prefer trad, but sport lines are fun as well. Quote
MCash Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 A few Suggestions 5.6 - Stokin the Chicken (hard 5.6 IMO) 5.7 - Seven Virgins and a Mule 5.8 - Crossing the threshold, Vantage Point 5.9 - Don Coyote, Tangled Up in Blue There are a bunch more too. PS, wear a helmet! Also: Party In Your Pants - 5.8 Air Guitar - 5.10A George and Martha - 5.10A Pony Keg - 5.9 Steel Grill - 5.9 Quote
matt_warfield Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Trad (place lots of gear in this rock): Seven Virgins and a Mule (5.7) Party in Your Pants (5.8) George and Martha (5.10a) Sport: Clip 'Em or Skip 'Em (5.8) Throbbing Gristle (5.9) Ride 'Em Cowboy (5.9) Jig Saw Direct (5.10b) Sunshine Wall is most fun when not highly populated. Quote
mountainmatt Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Picking up the book tonight. I have also been looking at: http://users.owt.com/wrobins/ Quote
matt_warfield Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 I would suggest concentrating first on routes in the book and venture onto the Robins routes when your spirit of adventure is especially strong. Quote
MCash Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 If you're feeling strong try Sinsemilla (10c), or TR it off a gear anchor. It's a beautiful stemming box with 2 fingercracks. Probably the best 5.10 at Vantage. Quote
mountainmatt Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Stemming and finger cracks are the best The online guide seems to indicate that most things are OW Quote
Mr._Natural Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 just the last 15 feet or so or many of the roots like G%M and Air Guitar, its really a shame. Quote
thestidham Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 hey speakin of vantage, I haven't climbed there yet but wanted to hit it up for a couple of days before memorial day weekend. I'm going to sasquatch that saturday and sunday so might as well do some climbing while I'm at it. I'm working on getting people from edgeworks gym to go but if anyone has any interest in hitting it up with a few of us hit me up. happy climbing! Quote
tyree Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Blue Autum is a sick 5.10 offwidth, climb it if you got the gear. Its very good!!! Quote
chucK Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Here's my recommendations: Some Vantage suggestions Quote
catbirdseat Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Chuck, is Disaster Factor protectable? If so, what gear? Quote
chucK Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 IIRC it was mostly smaller stuff (cams and nuts) in cracks (but I could be wrong, you might want to bring three #5's ). You can protect the first 20 feet or so (crux?) in the crack climb to the right (some 5.9). Unless you consider that cheating . The crack climb to the right is good too, but I don't remember the name. Quote
k.rose Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Catbird, Disaster factor takes a couple of long slings (for the chockstones) then smaller than tips to finger size above there. It's great fun too, if yer into that sort of thing. Cheers. Quote
catbirdseat Posted March 12, 2007 Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Catbird, Disaster factor takes a couple of long slings (for the chockstones) then smaller than tips to finger size above there. It's great fun too, if yer into that sort of thing. Cheers. I finally led Disaster Factor. I placed a Camalot 4.5 below the first chockstone, then slung that, and pulled the Camalot, I placed a #4 Bigbro about halfway between chockstones. Finally, I chickened out and placed a big nut in the crack to the right before squeezing into the crack below the big second chockstone and hauling up onto it, what I thought was the hardest move. I didn't bother to sling it because once on top of if you have a nice little crack that takes all sorts of nuts. I placed the big camalot up under the leaning slab to protect the exit move. I think this route can be led with no big gear at all if you are willing to use that crack to the right. Edited March 12, 2007 by catbirdseat Quote
Jens Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Just to weigh in with my two cents. Vantage is much better than it used to be with all the new lines. I like to crack climb but in my opinion, almost all the trad lines at Vantage suck REALLY bad. The joy is the artistry of face climing movement over the entablature. Leave the cams at home and bring draws. In college as a vantage local at CWU in the early 90's we'd go to Vantage on a spring Saturday and would occasionally be the only car. We'd done almost every single established route but these days, their are a ton of lines and projects. Quote
MCash Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Catbird, Disaster factor takes a couple of long slings (for the chockstones) then smaller than tips to finger size above there. It's great fun too, if yer into that sort of thing. Cheers. I finally led Disaster Factor. I placed a Camalot 4.5 below the first chockstone, then slung that, and pulled the Camalot, I placed a #4 Bigbro about halfway between chockstones. Finally, I chickened out and placed a big nut in the crack to the right before squeezing into the crack below the big second chockstone and hauling up onto it, what I thought was the hardest move. I didn't bother to sling it because once on top of if you have a nice little crack that takes all sorts of nuts. I placed the big camalot up under the leaning slab to protect the exit move. I think this route can be led with no big gear at all if you are willing to use that crack to the right. Looking cozy in there. Quote
catbirdseat Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) Just to weigh in with my two cents. Vantage is much better than it used to be with all the new lines. I like to crack climb but in my opinion, almost all the trad lines at Vantage suck REALLY bad. The joy is the artistry of face climing movement over the entablature. Leave the cams at home and bring draws. In college as a vantage local at CWU in the early 90's we'd go to Vantage on a spring Saturday and would occasionally be the only car. We'd done almost every single established route but these days, their are a ton of lines and projects. Jens, I couldn't disagree with you more. I enjoy both the trad lines as well as ths sport lines. I think the sport climbs that are most popular are not the best ones. People like the arete routes just because they are like climbing in the gym. The best routes are, as you say, on the entableture, down at such places as Millennium Wall, M&M Wall, etc. Edited March 13, 2007 by catbirdseat Quote
MCash Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 The sport climbs on Sunshine Wall are the absolute worst routes I have ever climbed. It's basically a wall with a bunch of notches chipped out. Like climbing a ladder. It's worse than the gym because atleast the gym varies its holds, these are all flat jugs. Boring. I like Vantage's trad climbs. The chipped out holds and stemming rests make it possible to lead harder cracks than I normally could. They also add variety to the climbing. That being said I think the lower cliffs offer some pretty nice face routes. Quote
kevino Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 I agree about the lower cliffs. The rock totally changes formation from the columns and creates some great faces/routes. M&M and Powerhouse, etc. Quote
kevbone Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Bro.....the best climbing there is when you go to Smith. If you like holds that flex, its a great place. But if you are going there, I found the harder the climb the better the route. Go down to the lower tier and climb on the 11's and 12's. The rock was far superior to the 5.6-5-10's. Just my thoughts. Very pretty view though. Quote
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