layton Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Funny how a name, a really good pic, or reputation for whatever reason can make a route that may not be so good, hard, or aesthic. Here's a list of climbs i believe may be "overhyped" and if repeated would get a full supply of congrats that a harder route may not get -Eve Dearborn Memorial -Thermogenesis -Dragontail Madness Climb one of these and you'll be a hero! Quote
Dru Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 He misspelled "atheistic". It means "godless" Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Thermogenesis is not held in awe because of it's difficulty but because of its extreme objective hazard. It only got climbed by mistake. Quote
goatboy Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I don't think anyone would post massive congratulations, or be anyone's hero, for climbing This House of Sky....but for what it's worth, I enjoyed the route for what it is -- a long, rambling, fun ice climb in a beautiful wild setting.... Quote
Cobra_Commander Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 The chestbeating opportunity here is off the charts. Quote
layton Posted February 20, 2006 Author Posted February 20, 2006 The chestbeating opportunity here is off the charts. exactly. just a little food for thought as to why we'd climb a route, and why folks keep mentioning those route over and over again... Someone may have climbed eve dearborn this weekend, not sure. Two friends bailed on it on thursday. Said the gully looked ez, the crux was extreme moss/shrub climbing to avoid the waterfall pitches. I'd still be psyched on it, just cuz. The '78 route looks like the bussiness though Quote
Dru Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 This House of Sky is unrepeated? Ohmygod! Speaking of overhyped routes what about that one in Kookipi Creek you keep begging people to do, Mike? Quote
Cobra_Commander Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Thermogenesis is not held in awe because of it's difficulty but because of its extreme objective hazard. It only got climbed by mistake. So it has been climbed repeatedly on accident? Interesting. Quote
JayB Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 I've climbed a few underhyped routes that most people bag on but I actually enjoyed, but I can't think of their names off of the top of my head. It seems like it would be tough to call EDM overhyped - at least to my way of thinking, because to me an overhyped route is something just a bit harder than a trade route that acquires a mystique that's just not warranted by it's difficulty, position, aesthetics, etc. In Since no one has ever repeated the ascent, despite being widely coveted, and the FA's had acquited themselves pretty well on some serious shit elsewhere - it seems like it would be hard to call the EDM overhyped. Maybe "maddeningly difficult to find in condition for the past 20 years" or something would be a better description. Quote
jmace Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Apparently reading comprehension is low... Quote
Peter_Puget Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 The chestbeating opportunity here is off the charts. exactly. just a little food for thought as to why we'd climb a route, and why folks keep mentioning those route over and over again... Someone may have climbed eve dearborn this weekend, not sure. Two friends bailed on it on thursday. Said the gully looked ez, the crux was extreme moss/shrub climbing to avoid the waterfall pitches. I'd still be psyched on it, just cuz. The '78 route looks like the bussiness though Chestbeating: They should have listened to me...... Quote
dberdinka Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Overhyped Route = Any FA by Michael Layton Quote
mattp Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Da Toof. I assume you are referring to the S. Face; that is one that I would say is definitely NOT overhyped. It is simply fantastic. I'm not kidding. There are climbs that I think DO fall into the overhyped category: Outer Space, Liberty Crack, the South Face of Cutthroat, and Observation Rock for example. The Tooth, however, is about as exciting as it gets for the grade and the rock is great. It is easy to get to, easy to set up, and you climb at a continuous grade right to a cool summit with no screwing around. The descent is straight-forward. Lastly, you can see it from I-90 so everytime you drive to Ellensbury you can look up and remember how cool it was! Quote
goatboy Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Is the Torment-Forbidden Traverse "over-hyped?" Quote
EWolfe Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Da Toof. I assume you are referring to the S. Face; that is one that I would say is definitely NOT overhyped. It is simply fantastic. I'm not kidding. There are climbs that I think DO fall into the overhyped category: Outer Space, Liberty Crack, the South Face of Cutthroat, and Observation Rock for example. The Tooth, however, is about as exciting as it gets for the grade and the rock is great. It is easy to get to, easy to set up, and you climb at a continuous grade right to a cool summit with no screwing around. The descent is straight-forward. Lastly, you can see it from I-90 so everytime you drive to Ellensbury you can look up and remember how cool it was! I got a bite! It is good, that's why I put the on the end. Spread the word. Quote
layton Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 Is the Torment-Forbidden Traverse "over-hyped?" Big time. Good one. Quote
Chad_A Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 -Dragontail Madness Hmm; is that an obscure name for a route, or is it the Madness that encircles the TCs? Sorry, not too "up" on this stuff... Edit: PM answered question. Not the TCs at all. Quote
John Frieh Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Funny how a name, a really good pic, or reputation for whatever reason can make a route that may not be so good, hard, or aesthic. Here's a list of climbs i believe may be "overhyped" and if repeated would get a full supply of congrats that a harder route may not get -Eve Dearborn Memorial -Thermogenesis -Dragontail Madness Climb one of these and you'll be a hero! How about climb a route because you want to? If someone climbs one of those because they want to... awesome! More power to them! If someone climbs one of those (or any other route) to be a "hero" or impress others that's their choice but I think in the end their climbing career will be largely unfulfilling. Climb something because you want to... not because you need self validation Quote
ashw_justin Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I guess there would be some excitement in climbing an infamous route. There's a lot of fantasy in climbing, otherwise you're just a stupid human torturing yourself on some steep piece of earth for no reason. Quote
mattp Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I think the "overhype" phenomenon reflects more than simply a desire to impress others. Many climbers seem to feel underconfident to pick a good line without a guidebook author's endorsement or a string of enthusiastic trip reports on cc.com. Quote
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