ZimZam Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 So much for freedom of speech. The god almighty dollar or yuan comes first. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4672518.stm Quote
lI1|1! Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 if the chinese internet weren't filtered, the chinese government wouldn't allow it in the first place, so i don't blame google et al for their decision. the truths will still get out. the faster china modernizes, the sooner the cummunist regime will fall. Quote
olyclimber Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 I thought maybe this was about rc.com and the mcdonalds ads. Quote
fenderfour Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 This is after Google stood up to the government and proclaimed that one of it's core values is to "not be evil". Suddenly, they are willing to reroute Chinese internet users to geovernment websites when they search for particular topics. The first thing to do when oppressing a population is to control information. There is no doubt that Google is helping the Chinese government with this. So much for "Don't be evil". Quote
tomtom Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 Google, by definition, controls the information that you see when you use their search engine. What's the difference between rerouting to the Chinese government or rerouting to sponsors? Google Quote
chucK Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 One note of interest is that Google at least held out for the provision that if the search came up with something censored, then the results would indicate as such. So as it stands Google may censor stuff but will verify that there is something out there, but that the govt. is not allowing you to access it. Quote
mattp Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 What's the difference between rerouting to the Chinese government or rerouting to sponsors? You must not believe in FREEDOM. Clearly there is quite a difference. Quote
tomtom Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 What's the difference between rerouting to the Chinese government or rerouting to sponsors? You must not believe in FREEDOM. Clearly there is quite a difference. $$$ Quote
fenderfour Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 The founders of google held 3 billion in stock at the IPO. Now the stock price has quadrupled. How much $$$ is enough? Quote
minx Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 this may not be perfect or consistent with their actions regarding the US government's desire to explore their records. h/e, i'm still happy at least google is making some sort of effort, the rest of the search engines...nada Quote
fenderfour Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 You act as if it were a humanitarian cause. China is the biggest market in the world for everything. Yay! The Chinese public has more access to the internet! What you aren't saying is "Yay! the Chinese government has more control!" This isn't freedom, it's poisoning the candy. FYI - Yahoo is already in China. Ask.com announced plans to get there last year. Quote
ScottP Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 One note of interest is that Google at least held out for the provision that if the search came up with something censored, then the results would indicate as such. So as it stands Google may censor stuff but will verify that there is something out there, but that the govt. is not allowing you to access it. Out of 1.3 billion people, there will be a segment with the ability to hack the system to access what is there but not accessible. Quote
MatthewS Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 (edited) On the other hand, Google's censorship seems pretty half-assed: Example: "Tiananmen" is censored But "Tienanmen," "Tianenmen," or "Tiananman" are not! http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/30/technology/browser0130/index.htm?cnn=yes Edited February 2, 2006 by MatthewS Quote
archenemy Posted February 2, 2006 Posted February 2, 2006 You act as if it were a humanitarian cause. China is the biggest market in the world for everything. Except information, apparently Quote
Dechristo Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Yahoo providing the Chinese government information leading to the arrests of dissidents. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4695718.stm Quote
cj001f Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 You act as if it were a humanitarian cause. China is the biggest market in the world for everything. In terms of what? Not $ - it's still smaller than the US, the EU, and several EU countries. Quote
Gary_Yngve Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Out of 1.3 billion people, there will be a segment with the ability to hack the system to access what is there but not accessible. Exactly. What China is looking for -- perfect censorship -- is impossible. Quote
Distel32 Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 hhhmmmm, I think you guys aren't seeing the big picture...... Quote
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Yes, viva Brasilia. Exactly. Quote
Dechristo Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4715044.stm Quote
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