K_Y_L_E Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 (edited) So I am thinking about updating my pack, and was curious what size pack others were using. Right now I have a 4500-5000 pack. It does the job and then some. It worked great for a 4 day trip around jack mountain. But I am looking to get a new pack for mountaineering. I am wanting to get the smallest possible pack. The equipment I have is pretty light and compact (insert joke here) and I have a Dakine 2000ci ski/board pack that I can nearly fit everything into...nearly. SO, anyone use like a 3500 for mountaineering? Am I smoking crack thinking that will work? If I smoke crack will it work? Where can I get some crack? Thanks peace cheers shalom skoal danka word! Edited January 4, 2005 by K_Y_L_E Quote
DPS Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 My BD Ice Pack is ~3500 cu inches (45 liters) and works great for the Cascades. Its large enough that I leave the lid at home for summer climbs. Quote
NYC007 Posted January 4, 2005 Posted January 4, 2005 I am a big fan of the Coldcoldworldpacks.com and he will customize you pack for you for just a little more. Great packs. a size for everything.smart and clean design. also the Lowe Alpine Ice Fang is on clearence at Sierratradingpost.com for 60 bucks, its a great pack to, 3000 ci. For the price and the quality is a perfect one Quote
foolscongress Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 osprey makes a new version of its older zealot called the ceres in a couple sizes. the smaller one might be worth checking out. i've got the larger (4400 cu. in.) version, and after a little pack surgery it's only 4 lbs., so i'd guess the smaller isn't too weighty. great suspension, tool tubes, ski slots, etc. the other thing i use is a golite speed pack. it's just barely large enough for two nites if you go reaaaalllly light, but after i cut all the nonsense off it only weighs a pound . it's no kind of durable, but i've gotten two hard years out of it already. and like daniel said, the bd ice pack is great--are they still making that? Quote
catbirdseat Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 foolscongress- pullinfool, just a couple more fools. Quote
K_Y_L_E Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 Â I dont understand your crazy code talking. Quote
foolscongress Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 we fools need to stick together. enough of us, we could have our own institute. Quote
ajm Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 I also have a BD pack - 35L. It works great for just about any adventure you want to go on. Quote
Stephen_Ramsey Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 DPS, Â Are you referring to the 50L ice pack, maybe? By my math, 45 liters is 2746 cubic inches, not 3500. Â Cheers, Steve Quote
cracked Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 I did all my trips last year with a ~2500 cubic inch pack. I now have a Wild Things Ice Sac at 3200, and found it big enough that I got rid of the Arc'teryx Khamsin 62 that I never used. 3200 is plenty. Quote
DPS Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 DPS, Are you referring to the 50L ice pack, maybe? By my math, 45 liters is 2746 cubic inches, not 3500.  Cheers, Steve  Well, I know have the 45 liter, not the 50, so maybe it is only 2700 cubic inches? Seems bigger than that though. Either way, 45 liters is plenty big for the cascades, Tetons, etc. Quote
Stephen_Ramsey Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) Yeah, it seems like the 45L Ice Pack would be pretty ideal for the Cascades, especially for 2- and 3-day trips. I have the 50L Ice Pack, and it is plenty roomy for weekend trips, year round (and I always bring too much crap). Â Anyone use the GoLight Gust? That thing is crazy light, something like 20 oz? Is there any drawback to it? Edited January 5, 2005 by Stephen_Ramsey Quote
K_Y_L_E Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 Anyone use an Arc'Teryx, like the Khamsin? Quote
cj001f Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 I've got the 44L Ice Pack - Love it. Have used it exclusively for all my trips in the past 3ish years Quote
tomtom Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 Anyone use the GoLight Gust? That thing is crazy light, something like 20 oz? Is there any drawback to it? Â Yeah, the straps and haul loops are sewn directly to the dyneema bag material without re-enforcement. They can rip out of the bad without too much effort. The shoulder straps and hip strap are ok. Every other strap is fragile. Quote
Stephen_Ramsey Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) I did all my trips last year with a ~2500 cubic inch pack. Â Cracked, Â Was that the famous optic-orange homemade pack? Â Cheers, Steve Edited January 5, 2005 by Stephen_Ramsey Quote
fenderfour Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Anyone use the GoLight Gust? That thing is crazy light, something like 20 oz? Is there any drawback to it?  I've used it for most of this year.  Pros: Super light Cheap Material is much tougher than silnylon packs (BD's new stuff)  Cons: Too big no side compression straps Belt sucks bad No strap reinforcement (top strap has started to rip out)  Solutions: Add side compression straps. There are already tabs in the design, just sew them on.  Add strap reinforcement in the form of cordura backing sewn through the pack and the straps  Widen the belt with a wedge-shaped piece of cordura.  It's still too big.  If you can sew, it's no biggee, if you can't - get a different pack. Quote
cracked Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Was that the famous optic-orange homemade pack? Yeah. But it died recently. Quote
sleepy Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 Hey all, I'm new to the board, looks like a funny place. When you guys cut crap off your pack, what is it that you cut off? I can see the obvious stuff is there more than that? Â --- I can do that... Quote
rock-ice Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 Anyone use the GoLight Gust? That thing is crazy light, something like 20 oz? Is there any drawback to it?  Add strap reinforcement in the form of cordura backing sewn through the pack and the straps  Widen the belt with a wedge-shaped piece of cordura.  It's still too big.  If you can sew, it's no biggee, if you can't - get a different pack.  Just buy the Jam instead of the gust. its 20oz., a bit smaller but more technical. More technical in that it has side compression straps, water bottle holders and is hydration compatible. My only concern for you is it might be a little small. Check it out. Quality pack in my opinion. Quote
K_Y_L_E Posted January 7, 2005 Author Posted January 7, 2005 Yeah I like the GoLites, But I do some AT and stuff where I need a pack that is a bit tougher. Again, does anyone have an opinion on Arc'Teryx? They seem to be pretty light but still tough and able to handle skis. Quote
hasbeen Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 I have a Khamsin 30 that I use for day trips and a Khamsin 52 that I use for multi day. They are light but seem pretty tough. The 30 holds skis reasonably well and has a hypalon reinforcement on the bottom compression strap to resist cutting by ski edges. I cut a small hole in the 52 at the top compression strap with a ski edge but a little seam grip fixed it right up. For lightly constructed/lightly padded packs, they carry weight surprisingly well. Because neither pack is particularly adjustable and rely on "crush pods" for padding, fit seems to be pretty important. I like the packs because they are simple and light. Too bad the 30 is no longer made. I can't remember if the 52 is still available. Quote
fern Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 I think the whole range of Khamsins has been changed or superseded or whatever for this year. I have a Khamsin 38 (size small) and find it pretty good and comfy, ok size for summer overnights but not quite big enough for winter. The seams are starting to bust a little where the compression straps connect. Quote
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