Tyrone_Shoes Posted October 2, 2002 Posted October 2, 2002 Some of you may have noticed the use of the bright orange Circle/Arrow paint marking on many of the belay stations, and summits on Mt Slesse, Rexford, and Cdn Border Peak. This is a newer European technique. Why is there no talk of these markings on your mountains. I would think this would be very unappealing to the masses of Western Climbers. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted October 2, 2002 Posted October 2, 2002 Yeah bro. We like the adventure and don't need the belay stations marked so. BTW last time I was on slesse there were no belay markers or summit paint. Quote
Jake Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 Paint is no good. I go to the mountains to get away from people and take in the beauty. Spray paint doesn't belong on rocks on the top of a mountain. A little checking around and you will figure out how to get down. What next, painted arrows showing you where the route goes and how to get to the top? Quote
Mr._Chips Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 Tyrone, if you are headin up to the nesakwatch spires are you planning on sprayin the routes up there as much as you spray on this site? if so, put a little of that napalm in the faces of the people who think they own these places. heads up for the razor wire and lots of big talk Quote
plexus Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 Tyrone, Â You might want to try an elkhair caddis fly or switch to red flatfish lure if they don't start jumping for the bait. Quote
Tyrone_Shoes Posted October 3, 2002 Author Posted October 3, 2002 I did not spray any paint on any routes! I just wanted to bring light to the fact that this is happening and knowbody was talking about it. I thought it was interesting how I want to bolt a few popular routes to allow access to a wider variety of climbers but knowbody cares about orange paint. Â I'm not against it completly as it clearly designates effective belay areas but I had nothing to do with ANY PAINTING ! Quote
ILuvAliens Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 This sucks. Not much you can do unless you are there when the painting takes place though, other then bitch. I do my best to practice leave no trace. I wish others shared the same ideals. Quote
mattp Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 Tyrone may be a troll fisherman, but I HAVE seen painted stones in cairns and painted lines on slabs in New Hampshire, painted circles denoting fixed pins on a hut approach in British Columbia, painted route numbers on crags in Ontario and France, and painted route markers in Germany. I've never fealt the urge to spraypaint any mountain or crag, but when I visited Germany some years ago I heard a story of a guy climbing the east face of the Watzmann and painting red dots along the route -- somebody else climbed behind him with the grey paint, covering the dots. Anybody know if the guy with the red paint went back and repeated his marking? Maybe this is the Euro version of bolt wars. Quote
Lambone Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 Didn't someone mention that The Fisher Chimneys route has an arrow painted to mark the correct gully? Â Ever hear of the circuts at Fontainbleau? I guess there are arrows pointing to a sequence of boulder problems... Â Grafiti if you ask me... Quote
tread_tramp Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 A couple years back, when I took my daughters up the scramble route on Mount Pilchuck, I noticed that the rock along the ridgeline was tagged with spray paint. Quote
ScottP Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Jake: Paint is no good. I go to the mountains to get away from people and take in the beauty. Spray paint doesn't belong on rocks on the top of a mountain. A little checking around and you will figure out how to get down. What next, painted arrows showing you where the route goes and how to get to the top? When I did Fisher Chimneys several years ago, there was a bright orange arrow sprayed onto the rocks, pointing to the entrance gully to the chimneys. Is that still there? Quote
Off_White Posted October 3, 2002 Posted October 3, 2002 A long ways back, 1980 or so, I recall white circles spray painted on both the trail to Lake Constance in the Olympics (which had some monstrous blowdown at that time) as well as on the rote. Quote
slaphappy Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 quote: Didn't someone mention that The Fisher Chimneys route has an arrow painted to mark the correct gully? You are correct. As of mid August there was an arrow pointing up the correct gully. Pretty disgusting. What happened to adventure? Quote
Fence_Sitter Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 yeah i think i was the one that said it... it is pretty faded now, but still there and quite noticeable! WTF Quote
russ Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 Back in the late '70's I went to Mt Jonah, or something close to that, in Georgia. On several routes every hold was painted blue. A local said the national guard trained there, so the holds were marked so they could find them. Quote
Smoker Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 quote: Originally posted by slaphappy: quote: Didn't someone mention that The Fisher Chimneys route has an arrow painted to mark the correct gully? You are correct. As of mid August there was an arrow pointing up the correct gully. Pretty disgusting. What happened to adventure? So, the gully is marked at the top and bottom then. There was too much snow to see the lower arrow when I went through in mid-July but the arrow below Winnie's Slide marking the top of the Chimneys was disgustingly clear. Â Folks that must spraypaint to find their way need help. Â I'm not sure what kind of help though. Quote
sayjay Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 ohmigod. spraypaint marking a climb in the mountains. how terribly depressing...especially on such a stunning mountain. Â anyone else feel like hauling a sandblaster up shuksan ? Quote
ryland_moore Posted October 4, 2002 Posted October 4, 2002 Two summers ago while hiking the loop trail off of WA Pass that takes you up Ross lake and around Jack Mt. and back down to WA Pass to the East, there was a 5th class (at most) route that had white spray paint with arrows and huge anchors you could hang a truck off of. The peak's name escapes me, but it was the last peak before descending down the switchbacks to the eastern trailhead off the trail loop. Don't have my topos with me now, but will try to find out. There is a small lake just east of the peak. The route, which goes up the South side was approached via a trail from the lake, was easy scrambling. Pretty uneventful for only a couple hundred feet or so. You could see other peaks, including Jack, as well as WA Pass and it was around 8,000' Anyone know this route or mountain? Quote
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