dberdinka Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Does it have something to do with winter ascents? That seems to be a differentiating characteristic between Liberty Crack and Thin Red Line Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Add to the lists (or correct others), but don't give it away.. Challenger, not Maude Inspiration, not Swiss Peak Chopping Block, not Fury Davis, not Fernow Slesse, not Cathedral this game may help me with a research project I'm working on.. Three Fingers, not Baker Rainier, not Forgotten Green Giant Buttress, not Dreamer Hozomeen, not Jack Yellow Aster Butte, not Ruth Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Silver Star, not Fisher? incorrect, not right Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Amy Carver, not Sara Trimble False, not correct Quote
geordie Posted October 29, 2004 Author Posted October 29, 2004 Sorry Bill.. And Sarah is with an H, (but that's CHS trivia which belongs elsewhere I'm sure.) Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 oops, What about: Three Fingers, not Baker Rainier, not Forgotten Green Giant Buttress, Exfoliation Dome Vesper, not Tomyhoi Yellow Aster Butte, not Ruth Quote
geordie Posted October 29, 2004 Author Posted October 29, 2004 Bill- nope. Here's a clue. In recent years Colin has moved some peaks from one column to the other. Once by himself. Quote
geordie Posted October 29, 2004 Author Posted October 29, 2004 not if Lowell's right about Dome... Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Tomyhoi, not Rideout Icy, not Luna Whitehorse, not Himmelhorn no more guesses for me. Quote
Dru Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Rideout and Tomyhoi, but NOT South Nesakwatch Spire The Cheam Range, but not Mt Northgraves The north face of Judge Howay, but not the north face of Robie Reid North Hozomeen, but not South Hozomeen Quote
rbw1966 Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 Thin Red Line has not seen a winter ascent? Quote
Lowell_Skoog Posted October 29, 2004 Posted October 29, 2004 not if Lowell's right about Dome... The rumor I heard was that Fred himself was along on the Dome trip. But I never got a first hand report about it and I don't recall seeing it written up anywhere. Constance, not Cruiser Chimney Rock, not Lemah Redoubt, not Bear Some of these are almost guessing on my part. Quote
Skeezix Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 FIIK!! I thought it had to do with combinations of letters or double letters or numbers of syllables. This is a good riddle. I don' have the solution. Quote
Rad Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 I don't have the historical references to respond in riddle form, but you've given us the thinly veiled answer already: Bill- nope. Here's a clue. In recent years Colin has moved some peaks from one column to the other. Once by himself. Inspiration and Pinnacle/Chopping Block were Colin winter FAs. The latter was the solo. We saw photos of the former at the Dwayner/Marko/Colin Pickets traverse last year. Good fun. Quote
DPS Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 That's it then, I am going after Cascade this winter for sure! Quote
geordie Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 I'm glad this provided folks with some fun. So far it's brought two peaks into question for me.. Have Bear or Dome received winter ascents, if so by whom and when? I'll admit I haven't been through the CAJ yet, but I think I've been through all the AAJs. There's lots of FWAs to be had - the race starts anew 12/21. Quote
Dru Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 I have found that many FWAs are not reported in either CAJs or AAJs. Quote
Lowell_Skoog Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 I'm glad this provided folks with some fun. So far it's brought two peaks into question for me.. Have Bear or Dome received winter ascents, if so by whom and when? Dome Peak: "First winter ascent by Fred Beckey, Paul Gonzales, and Laurel Black in March 1994." (CAG-2, 3rd Ed., p. 249) I neglected to check Fred's latest edition before my previous post. So the rumor I heard back then was true. As for Bear, I don't recall ever hearing about a winter ascent. However, in about 1987 Mark Bebie and Monte Westlund made a winter attempt on the original Beckey/Fielding route on the north buttress. They found the buttress festooned with huge dollops of unstable snow mushrooms and retreated. I remember discussing this climb extensively with Mark by e-mail. He and I were going to attempt it together, but for some reason, I bailed out. At the time, planning a climb entirely by e-mail was very unusual. Mark worked at Microsoft; I worked at Fluke. This was before Internet Service Providers and the World-Wide Web and just a few universities and high-tech companies were on the Internet. Quote
geordie Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 Lowell thanks for that info. FB keeps changing his mind on where he lists winter ascent info. Sometimes under the general pk info, sometimes under specific route info, and here under the NE peak. guess I missed it.. oops. The history of attempt is interesting stuff, the Mt. Baker Club tried 3 successive winters before suceeding. Quote
Colin Posted January 11, 2005 Posted January 11, 2005 Lowell, Torment saw a winter ascent in 81 - it's in the new green CAG. Quote
dbb Posted March 1, 2005 Posted March 1, 2005 Tomyhoi, not Rideout Icy, not Luna Whitehorse, not Himmelhorn no more guesses for me. Luna = silas wild et co. about '91ish Quote
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