specialed Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 Anyone have any negative experience with these jobs as far as durability issues? Quote
Skinveen Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 After just a few day trips with mine, I have no complaints. Quote
JoshK Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 Also check out the camp alum crampons. More agressive secondary points and even lighter. I had the stubais before, but like the camps even more. Quote
Skinveen Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 There was a post a little while back that explained where to get the Burton version of the Stubai (exact same thing) for $40. Pretty sweet deal. Quote
Dustin_B Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 have the stubais and love em. easy to adjust and put on. need anti-bot plates though as they ball up easily without. my friend has camps with out plates and they never ball up on him. Don't know why. Quote
gapertimmy Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 i've had my stubais for many years, solid piece of gear for any type of 'ponning needs (cept ice climbing, but i don't do that). Â used em on glacier slogs, steep snow, and steep dirt! Â used them for the first time yesterday on my denali lasers and they were solid. Quote
TimL Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 I've used both the Camps and the Stubai. I liked the Camps better. I believe Pro Mountain Sports sells them. I bought the Stubais, and since have not had any problems at all, because PMS was out of the Camps. Quote
specialed Posted June 17, 2004 Author Posted June 17, 2004 Wow I actually just used this site for something other than talking shit. Quote
specialed Posted June 17, 2004 Author Posted June 17, 2004 fuck ebay. I'm not sending some asshat my cash in the hopes that he "may" send me the goods and that the goods aren't trashed. Quote
Dru Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 Wow I actually just used this site for something other than talking shit. Â there's a lot of info on strap ons on the toys in babelandweb site Quote
layton Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 you would need aluminum crampons, specialed. better leave the real ones for us experts. Quote
ananda Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 The Stubai's have served me well. A friend of mine has had problems with the Camps. The Camps have a flat aluminum piece connecting the front piece with the back piece. When using crampons with flexible soled shoes or boots, this flat piece should flex with your shoe. The Stubai's use a steel piece here which is flexible, the Camp's use an aluminum piece which is brittle. Jim at PMS replaced this center piece on my friends broken Camps with steel pieces, like those which are part of the Stubai's. Â I assume though, that the aluminum portions of both these crampons would probably fail in a brittle manner if over stressed. Steel crampons would likely be ductile if over stressed. Quote
minx Posted June 17, 2004 Posted June 17, 2004 don't throw out the extra bits when you toss the box. it makes it sort of tough to fit them after that Quote
JoshK Posted June 18, 2004 Posted June 18, 2004 fuck ebay. I'm not sending some asshat my cash in the hopes that he "may" send me the goods and that the goods aren't trashed. Â Buy from somebody with good feedback. If you aren't an idiot, you wont get ripped off on ebay. Quote
Dru Posted June 19, 2004 Posted June 19, 2004 I am eBay. Before the universe was, I am. I made the suns. I made the worlds. I created the lives and the places they inhabit; I move them here, I put them there. They go as I say, they do as I tell them, I am the word and my name is never spoken, The name which no one knows. I am called eBay, but that is not my name. I am. I shall always be. Quote
randygoat Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 fuck ebay. I'm not sending some asshat my cash in the hopes that he "may" send me the goods and that the goods aren't trashed. Â Buy from somebody with good feedback. If you aren't an idiot, you wont get ripped off on ebay. Â I've only gotten a few things off Ebay, but have had no problems. I have a friend who bought what was suposed to be a hand crafted Digiri do[sp?] and got pretty much a modified length of PVC tube. Quote
Plinko Posted June 27, 2004 Posted June 27, 2004 I've had a pair of 10 pt. AL Stubais for about a year...before I even took them out on the first trip a rivet broke that holds the strap to the crampon frame....5 cent bolt and lock nut and it was good as new. I still worry about the other rivets failing in the same way, but after a year, they've held up better than I expected. Quote
Jens Posted June 27, 2004 Posted June 27, 2004 I'm a wannabe weight freak but still refuse to go aluminum. Â Buy a real light pair of 10 point steel crampons- cut down the bar, straps, and file the points short and weigh the things- they'll be really super close to any of the aluminums ( and a lot tougher). Black ice, scrogging over a little rock, mixed, etc.it's not worth it in my humbe opinion to get burned by aluminum as which can cause to nearly have to abort a climb. For ski mountaineering, they are probably the ticket. ---Just my two cents. Quote
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