Doctorb Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 One-Man Axis of Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doctorb Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 One-Man Axis of Evil  Too many big words? Would fuzzy pictures that flip out at you help you in synthesizing the content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 To many here just belive everyhting that support's thier own position. Â O'Neill is a disgruntled fired employee. Do you really think he is going to be honest and objective? Â I'd say cut what he says in half. Sure some of it is likely true, but I'm sure he has spun it his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 To many here just belive everyhting that support's thier own position. Â O'Neill is a disgruntled fired employee. Do you really think he is going to be honest and objective? Â I'd say cut what he says in half. Sure some of it is likely true, but I'm sure he has spun it his way. What's interesting is that O'neill came out on the "Bush doesn't have a clue" side versus the party line "Bush is in charge, he makes all the choices" Â And that the he brought along a couple thousand pages of notes to back it up. Of course he probably fabricated all these to match his opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I heard on the radio this morning that a goverment report on job just came out. They were expecting 150,000 new jobs, but only 1000 were created. Oh, but that is good news-- really. It means business is focused on profits and profits mean stocks will go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted January 12, 2004 Author Share Posted January 12, 2004 All true patriots are working to get this maniac out of office. Â This is your opinion, don't play it off as fact or common knowledge. I love how you anti-freedom , socialist, big government fucks all say, "All must do this and agree with me 'cause I think so." Fuck all you guys, make up your own political mind and act for yourself. Â You are funny...real funny...we are losing civil rights left and right (no pun intended) under this administration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 i kina feel sorry for that paul oneill dude. his ass is basically gonna get fuked. kina like that cia chick whose husband said some shit bout the white house makin up info on niger uranium. or that guy vance foster who commited 'suicide'. bad shit gonna go down.  it's already started   here comes another reign of terror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 (edited) And, come on, has GWB done anything worse than any other president? Nixon? Kennedy? LBJ? FDR? (to name a few).  I really don't think it's a logical argument to justify misdeeds by saying they're no worse than other misdeeds.  I don't know what common thread you are thinking of for those other Presidents you mentioned, but I don't think any of them invaded another country with less reason than Bush did in Iraq. The fact that he obviously lied to the American people in order to justify the war is repugnant. You could probably make the case that some on your list up there lied to go to war. But if you did, it wouldn't justify Bush's misdeeds.  The Vietnam War is probably the best comparison you could make. Do you think Bush is not so bad, because, "heck we attacked Vietnam!" Johnson decided not to run for a second term because of his misdeeds in SE Asia. Nixon was impeached. I'd settle for either of those solutions to the current problem. I would say, "I'd settle for the JFK solution" too, but, of course, I won't, because that would be stupid.  By the way, though the Iraq war is my biggest beef with GWB, I also really do not like his economic (tax cuts in times of nearly unprecedented budget deficit) or environmental (speaks for itself) policies.  ETA: Oh yeah, I forgot to add my dismay about the continuing erosion of civil liberty under the Bush administration  Bush is selling our soldiers, our country's prestige in the world, and our children's and grandchildren's economic and environmental health to the most convenient bidders. He sucks. He should be impreached, but I'll settle for him getting voted out of office. Edited January 12, 2004 by chucK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 One-Man Axis of Evil Those are only a fraction of the items. They left out this one, possibly because he had to back off. Attempt to end wetlands protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted January 12, 2004 Author Share Posted January 12, 2004 And, come on, has GWB done anything worse than any other president? Nixon? Kennedy? LBJ? FDR? (to name a few). Â I really don't think it's a logical argument to justify misdeeds by saying they're no worse than other misdeeds. Â I don't know what common thread you are thinking of for those other Presidents you mentioned, but I don't think any of them invaded another country with less reason than Bush did in Iraq. The fact that he obviously lied to the American people in order to justify the war is repugnant. You could probably make the case that some on your list up there lied to go to war. But if you did, it wouldn't justify Bush's misdeeds. Â The Vietnam War is probably the best comparison you could make. Do you think Bush is not so bad, because, "heck we attacked Vietnam!" Johnson decided not to run for a second term because of his misdeeds in SE Asia. Nixon was impeached. I'd settle for either of those solutions to the current problem. I would say, "I'd settle for the JFK solution" too, but, of course, I won't, because that would be stupid. Â By the way, though the Iraq war is my biggest beef with GWB, I also really do not like his economic (tax cuts in times of nearly unprecedented budget deficit) or environmental (speaks for itself) policies. Â Bush is selling our soldiers, our country's prestige in the world, and our children's and grandchildren's economic and environmental health to the most convenient bidders. He sucks. He should be impreached, but I'll settle for him getting voted out of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I dislike the transparent and over the top attempts to create a "superhero" in the white house. Yeah brandishing a delicious fake turkey to the troops, landing on aircraft carriers in flight suits, speaking to completely biased audiences, possibly starting forest fires as backdrops, sending chumps to mars, etc. are pretty harmless and have been done many times before (maybe not the fire bit), but it insults everyone when it is so blatant. The folks who eat it up with their american flag matching shirts in the mobile home are disturbing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 All true patriots are working to get this maniac out of office.  This is your opinion, don't play it off as fact or common knowledge.  I love how you anti-freedom, -- Patriot Act   socialist --- big business subsidies  big government -- largest budget decifict, greatest increase in government spending over 3 year period  fucks all say, "All must do this and agree with me 'cause I think so." Fuck all you guys, make up your own political mind and act for yourself.  Hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 hope ya like him 'cause he's gonna be around for another 4 years ... piss'n moan all ya want; those are just the facts, Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 You're probably right Trask, but I do think there's a chance for us patriots due to the relatively large numbers of us in the "strongly dislike" category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted January 12, 2004 Author Share Posted January 12, 2004 hope ya like him 'cause he's gonna be around for another 4 years ... piss'n moan all ya want; those are just the facts, Sam  Unfortunately i think you are right...sux, but who knows? Enough dirt gets out and he might not be able to weasle another close election... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b-rock Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I think the dems will take it. Their 'shit' sure wasn't together in 92 either; and the primaries then were arguably even nastier than now. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 We need another Perot. Could get one too. Some kinda rich mexiphobe upset about the illegal alien amnesty diluting our precious bodily fluids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I love all this yammering on a climbing BBS. What are you doing to help th situation? Are you as concerned as you say? It has been said that you can tell the true motivations of a person by their daytimer and their checkbook. What are you doing htat is pro-active for the causes you so vehemently speak for on this board? Are you donating your money to these grass-roots politicians? Are you donating your time for the humanitarian causes? Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 If you look at my chequebook, you'll very quickly realize that I am a humanitarian cause . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier_JB Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 just to offer more food for thought, read this as well for other thoughts on Paul O'Neil...... Â www.danieldrezner.com/blog/ Â cut and paste if necessary. Sorry, Im technically deficient.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 I wonder if jayb jb and hoosier_jb will post in succession at some point. It seems likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 speaking of j_b, whatever happened to that sack'a shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Shrub has had a boner for Saddam from day one. 9/11 was a convenient, albeit lame, excuse for him to go in and get the bastard. Don't get me wrong, Saddam had it coming. But the lengths that this administration goes through to first con (emphasis on con) vince that it is necessary and then to convince (again, emphasis on con) the american public and the rest of the world has been outrageous. Â While I'm at it, you know what really pisses me off? The notion that if I don't support the war, it infers that I'm against our troops, and therefore unpatriotic. Fucking conservative wankers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluck Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 OK W haters..... curious to see which other Presidential candidate wanker you are supporting. I have to tell you that the entire group is so unimpressive that it feels like time for a "none of the above" vote to communicate utter void of confidence in the Washington beuacrapsy. I've always been weary of the power hungry, ego maniacs that seem to be attracted to national politics, but these days the job title "politician" = sewer rat to me. Clinton = suck. W = suck. Honest politician = Oxymoron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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