dryad Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Eureka Zeus 2 Exo Tent Does anybody have one of these? It looks sort of like a poor man's Bibler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 attractive price  but it appears to be only a 3 season tent but truthfully most cascade climbers dont need more then a 3 season tent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I don't think you could compare it with a Bibler.... Â It is basicaly a urathane coted rainfly with some fancy ventilation. I'd think you'd get serious condensation if you spent any time in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 A friend of mine owns one (Tony B, not a cc.comer) and we use it all the time. It is pretty nice for the price. Condensation is an issue sometimes (more like a lot of the time), especially when you have to shut the door/vestible. I don't like wet walls so I sometimes carry my double wall tent and suck up the pound of extra weight. It is light though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Yeah, I dont think a poor man's bibler is a fair comparison either. I tried using a cheap single wall tent once, probably made out of very similar stuff. The condensation was awful. To save a few bucks, look at integral designs too. A bit cheaper than biblers and basically identical. Still very expensive, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatskiclimbsail Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Integral designs stuff is _bomber_. I woke up in my favorite bivy once with 2 feet of snow on top of me and didn't know it until I zipped open in the morning and it caved in on me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 the bigger the tarp, the better the ventilation! Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 You get what you pay for, don't scrimp when going to the wild - Bibler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 MisterE said: You get what you pay for, don't scrimp when going to the wild - Bibler. Â ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 ID Svarsky guides siltarp, sleeps 1-3 depending on comfort, 13 ounces. two peak tunnel vents. i'll sleep in it in the winter, but not much above treeline. Wintertime, I've dug it in a bit, set it up on skis, and had a standup shelter for two in no time. SHWEET!  For that, there are a few four season tunnel tents that weigh under six pounds, thats three pounds a person for shelter. Respectable for Denali or Rainier mid winter.  Single wall, non breathable tents will be quite damp, but if you get one, get the classic x-style frame, this will at least be strong for snow loads. Eureka makes some affordable lightweight DOUBLE wall x- tents. the four season hoop tents are still relatively expensive but very bomber if pitched correctly.  or you could always go with the 2.2 pound betamid, a very stout single wall "tent"  hope this helps   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Beck said: For that, there are a few four season tunnel tents that weigh under six pounds, thats three pounds a person for shelter. You're kidding ! Three pounds per person is amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 dont mind him... he is old skewl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browntoe98 Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 I've got a Eureka one person tent. It's not the Zeus, I thnk it's the model previous. Anyway - I felt like I got what I paid for (not much) but I've got a nice bag and the tent keeps the weather off of me. I did immediately replace the pegs - cheap, heavy and steel. All in all I think it beats the pants off a bivy sack and doesn't weigh nearly as much as my Marmot Rapeed. Â I've gotta say, I'm looking seriously at the BD betamid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 There's a lot of new stuff coming out tentwise this coming spring. Now is a good time for closeout, but this spring there's going to be a lot of neat and cool stuff to choose from, and not all of it is stratospherically $$$. There seems to be a new wave of fabric improvements in tent world this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 good point, allison. Â look at black diamonds new updates of several bibler styles with silcoat floors and epic canopies, designed for three season use, at about a third less cost of the bibler tents. and lighhter weight. Â there are also new single wall tents and bivies being made with air permeable goretex. completely sealable and will not suffocate the occupants. Â Event is lighter than gore or toddtex. reason for that, maybe someone else would like to comment on that. Â Mountain hardware is bringing into the market new WB single wall tents made with welded seams. Â none of these are going to be inexpensive tents. an inexpensive single wall tent like the zues exo and several other versions like it (mountain hardware, wenzel, Marmot) have some place in the mountain environment, but not much. Â It depends on where Dryad wants to use it? Â I'd also encourage dryad to think about some non traditional single wall shelters (or trad, depending on how you look at them) Â there are relatively lightweight double wall tunnel tents from hilleberg and exped, and some older models still available, that are lightweight and will provide solid four season protection. also, double wall x-frame tents from several manufacturers that are light and could go to Denali or a ski trip to the Himal. Â My 2 cents, dryad. And i still owe you that chocolate malt. Or mexican at that cool restaurant? we can talk lightweight tents... Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriss Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 www.mandatorygear.com/tent2.htm  Pound and a half---4 person tent.   Not exactly 4 season but gives an idea as to what's possible.    chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Wow, that light tent is cool, but I'm pretty sure the 4 season claim is BS. I can't imagine that thing would stand up to any wind or snow loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 JoshK said: Wow, that light tent is cool, but I'm pretty sure the 4 season claim is BS. I can't imagine that thing would stand up to any wind or snow loading. It might, silnylon is slick as shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberBuxom Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 stephenson was making cutting edge tents back when your dad was still whacking off to pictures of sophia loren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Oh, ya, forgot to mention those guys. makes his tents in both single wall and double wall options, but the vestibule options are kind of wacky. Still, extremely stout, light tents. Â Amberbuxom, you aren't Laura from the old warmlite catalogs, are you? MMMN, Laura, what a great aspect of the seventies- Where is Laura now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 cracked said:Â It might, silnylon is slick as shit. Â That, my friend, is the understatement of the century. Â I have a little tent made of the stuff, and while I like it, I am glad it is not my only tent. Â The EPIC stuff is still untested in the Pacific NorthWET, and there are concerns that it might be a little too breathable. If it were me, I'd wait until the jury is out on whether this fabric is going to work here or be more like a gigantic sieve. The stuff works great for clothes, but the tent thing presents potential problems. Â That said, if it works here, it's going to be ultra cool beans. Â The new MSR tents are also going to be groovy, and Big Agnes has some more traditional-type tent designs coming out in SilNylon. Plus the MHW tents MB mentioned, and REI Brand has something new that is going to be an instant classic. Â Yep, lotsa cool tents coming soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 sometimes the simpler the better, dryad.  almost all of northwest mountain trips, weather in summer or winter, you can get away carrying a tarp or tarp type shelter and have roomy, well ventilated, inexpensive shelter that are usually a lot more comfortable than any tent. The only exception would be on one of the volcanoes mid winter on a climb. All of the lesser cascade peaks you can bag from a tarp or a trench 12 months a year.  from Jim Nelson's site, subheaded "extreme climbing 101" Jim writes...    "Learning to sleep out in a hostile environment with a minimum of equipment is a prerequisite for successful multi–day alpine climbing. Sport alpinists, light packers, adventure racers, and scramblers also benefit from practicing age–old techniques utilizing simple bivy sacs and tarps. Using these primitive shelters combines creativity, awareness of your environment, and the latest lightweight fabrics. The results are greater Comfort, Safety, and Enjoyment.  Larger and colder mountains will usually require the use of a small, lightweight Assault Tent."  Word, Jim.   there are great options and ways to go out there- and sometimes incredibly inexpensive! I found a siltarp for five bucks at a rummage sale once...  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 Epic has been tested in the NW. It does not work well in heavy rains. Its best use is in cold, snowy conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 rbw1966 said: Epic has been tested in the NW. It does not work well in heavy rains. Its best use is in cold, snowy conditions. Â Duh! Those eVENT ID coffins...er...tents look really cool. $$, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 I guess I should have quoted allison since it was her I was responding to. Â Too much fruit loops again this morning or did mommy get the coding on your guranimals wrong again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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