incubus Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 The goal of good government is the optimum balance of liberty and order. Social diversity does not pull in that direction. Liberty is what we seek over the centuries, but if we grant it to too diverse a population, order disappears. Quote
Sphinx Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 catturdeat said: Good to have you back, Trask!!! Isn't it, though! Quote
catbirdseat Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 So basically what you are saying is we need ethnic cleansing. Quote
j_b Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 incubus said: The goal of good government is the optimum balance of liberty and order. Social diversity does not pull in that direction. Liberty is what we seek over the centuries, but if we grant it to too diverse a population, order disappears. Â lacking imagination today?. Quote
rbw1966 Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Plagiarism is the mark of a true Trask. Quote
incubus Posted September 24, 2003 Author Posted September 24, 2003 hi j_b, you worthless piece of _____, oops, I meant to say, you all knowing walking encyclopedia. always good to hear your point of view. Quote
RobBob Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 naw, trask would've dropped brown coils on him... Quote
Dru Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 catbirdseat said: So basically what you are saying is we need ethnic cleansing. Â no... ETHIC cleansing. Like banning Dwayner for having different ethics. Â Did you know banned persons and avatars can still chat in the chat room? Huh! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 Dru said: catbirdseat said: So basically what you are saying is we need ethnic cleansing. Â no... ETHIC cleansing. Like banning Dwayner for having different ethics. Â Did you know banned persons and avatars can still chat in the chat room? Huh! Quote
j_b Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 RobBob said: naw, trask would've dropped brown coils on him... Â it is trask. no doubt about it. the signature insulting pm's (which i told you i would not read btw), worthless trolls that are not even his own. in summary, truly pathetic. Quote
scrambler Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I can't help but think that these are all complex issues that transcend a simple solution. A simple solution... That's what I fear. Are you too willing to submit your life to a system or a political party because it has the answers? Not enough time in your life to think? Â "Guns don't kill people. People do." Yes, people certainly do kill people... with cars, knives, etc. Yet, accessibility to guns is part of the problem. The kid that sneaks his father's handgun to school is part of the problem. There are so many other parts of the equation that it makes the mind boggle. Â I know one thing. We, as Americans, aren't afraid to kill. Maybe that's part of the plan... Â "Videodrome is real... it has something that you don't have, Max. It has a philosophy. And that is what makes it dangerous." Â Â Quote
Sphinx Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 j_b said: RobBob said: naw, trask would've dropped brown coils on him... Â it is trask. no doubt about it. the signature insulting pm's (which i told you i would not read btw), worthless trolls that are not even his own. in summary, truly pathetic. Hey, he's better than you! Quote
RobBob Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 j_b, how do you know that the PMs are insulting if ya don't read them?? Quote
Greg_W Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 scrambler said: The kid that sneaks his father's handgun to school is part of the problem. Â Incorrect. Lack of education on the part of the father on proper gun safety, and the practice thereof, is the problem. People don't give kids enough credit; so many kids grow up with guns in the home and don't do what you describe. What is the underlying problem? It's not the gun, is it the parent? Quote
j_b Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 RobBob said: j_b, how do you know that the PMs are insulting if ya don't read them?? Â because i see the subject line and it is insulting Quote
rbw1966 Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 I read him as saying the kid was the problem, not the gun. Quote
incubus Posted September 24, 2003 Author Posted September 24, 2003 RobBob said: j_b, how do you know that the PMs are insulting if ya don't read them?? Like God, the j-b is an all-knowing creature...just ask her, she'll tell you as much. I say, j-b should run for Kalifornica governor. Quote
Greg_W Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 rbw1966 said: I read him as saying the kid was the problem, not the gun. Â I would say the parent was the problem. THe gun is the owner's responsibility; i.e., the parent. Quote
scrambler Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 (edited) Greg_W said: rbw1966 said: I read him as saying the kid was the problem, not the gun. Â I would say the parent was the problem. THe gun is the owner's responsibility; i.e., the parent. Â My ol' man was career military. Thus, my brother and I grew up with guns, shooting at beer bottles in the water and hunting. I would have never thought of bringing a gun to school because there was the fear instilled in us by the ol'man. You see, he used to leave his coiled belt in the same closet where the rifles and ammo were. A visible reminder. So, yeah... I gotta agree with ya, Greg. Â Maybe we gotta point at a more elusive culprit, the loss of time to spend with kids to teach them or the lack of foresight on the part of parents or... However, I do think that access to guns has increased dramatically over time and that is part of the problem. Now, the knee-jerk reaction is to limit accessibility, which I don't necessarily accept. Edited September 24, 2003 by scrambler Quote
incubus Posted September 24, 2003 Author Posted September 24, 2003 I just got a nasty PM from j-b (who is this person anyway? What a foul-mouthed little Cretan). Is this how a new member is supposed to be treated? Quote
sk Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 scrambler said: Greg_W said: rbw1966 said: I read him as saying the kid was the problem, not the gun. Â I would say the parent was the problem. THe gun is the owner's responsibility; i.e., the parent. Â My ol' man was career military. Thus, my brother and I grew up with guns, shooting at beer bottles in the water and hunting. I would have never thought of bringing a gun to school because there was the fear instilled in us by the ol'man. You see, he used to leave his coiled belt in the same closet where the rifles and ammo were. A visible remainder. So, yeah... I gotta agree with ya, Greg. Â Maybe we gotta point at a more elusive culprit, the loss of time to spend with kids to teach them or the lack of foresight on the part of parents or... However, I do think that access to guns has increased dramatically over time and that is part of the problem. Now, the knee-jerk reaction is to limit accessibility, which I don't necessarily accept. when I was a child all the guns in my home were on a gun rack next to the front door. It was never an issue. Quote
vegetablebelay Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 incubus said: I just got a nasty PM from j-b (who is this person anyway? What a foul-mouthed little Cretan). Is this how a new member is supposed to be treated? Â It's customary to post the pm's here for us to judge. Welcome Incubus! Quote
j_b Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 incubus said: I just got a nasty PM from j-b (who is this person anyway? What a foul-mouthed little Cretan). Is this how a new member is supposed to be treated? Â and a liar too (no real surprise). perhaps, we could ask an admin to check whether i sent you a message if you insist with your antagonistic bullshit. i don't need pm's to tell you what i think. as i said before, you are a cancer to this board. your participation here prevents reasonable folks from participating. Quote
Sphinx Posted September 24, 2003 Posted September 24, 2003 j_b said: incubus said: I just got a nasty PM from j-b (who is this person anyway? What a foul-mouthed little Cretan). Is this how a new member is supposed to be treated? Â and a liar too (no real surprise). perhaps, we could ask an admin to check whether i sent you a message if you insist with your antagonistic bullshit. i don't need pm's to tell you what i think. as i said before, you are a cancer to this board. your participation here prevents reasonable folks from participating. j_b you are worse than Trask/Incubus. The only person here who appreciates you is marylou, and that's not saying much. Shut up. Quote
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