EWolfe Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 We just ordered our new Toyota Prius - be here in a month Gets 60 MPG They borrowed some technology from big mining trucks that use the braking power to charge the batteries, pretty cool. Yosemite round trip: $30.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Yosemite round trip: $30.00 faq-in-A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 true.. but where are you going to sleep??? stash your gear? pick up hitch hikers??? C'mon dude... that is a mini car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 but can you go off roading in it??? how the hell can you climb BC mountains with a one of dose dere fancy green cars hah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Hey MisterE, Cool car! Do you still get a tax writeoff for it? I remember hearing that they were letting people write off a couple of grand for buying alternative vehicles, but only for a couple of years. Oh yeah, and where'd you get it, and what's it cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 SAD THING ABOUT HYBRIDS IS THAT THEY ARE PROLLY MORE OF A SPOILER FOR ALTERNATIVE FUELS SOURCE VEHICLES. COMPANIES SPENDING ALL THE R&D INTO A PATCH TO THE ISSUE OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES. THESE SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA NOW, BUT IN THE LONG RUN THEY WILL NOT BE WORTH THE MONEY. THEY WILL BE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR AND ONE DAY BE THE ONLY FOSSILL FUEL POLLUTING VEHICLE ON THE ROAD. EITHER WAY, MISTERE..... VVVVVVVVVVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONCHO&LEFTY Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Good Choice! I have the ultimate in dork cars (yet very fuel efficient 45-50mpg) but I like it! By the way suv guy please don't hit me I'll die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 chucK said: Hey MisterE, Cool car! Do you still get a tax writeoff for it? I remember hearing that they were letting people write off a couple of grand for buying alternative vehicles, but only for a couple of years. Oh yeah, and where'd you get it, and what's it cost? Yeah, we got the tax break - they are around 22k, and we got it at the dealership in Mt Vernon (taxes are less up there) Muffy, the rear seat folds down into somewhat of a bed (with the hatchback), so there is still places to crash on roadtrips. An interesting sidenote: can't put racks on them due to the balance of airflow and power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 screw the naysayers, good choice man. and congrats on the new wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted September 12, 2003 Author Share Posted September 12, 2003 erik said: SAD THING ABOUT HYBRIDS IS THAT THEY ARE PROLLY MORE OF A SPOILER FOR ALTERNATIVE FUELS SOURCE VEHICLES. COMPANIES SPENDING ALL THE R&D INTO A PATCH TO THE ISSUE OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES. THESE SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA NOW, BUT IN THE LONG RUN THEY WILL NOT BE WORTH THE MONEY. THEY WILL BE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR AND ONE DAY BE THE ONLY FOSSILL FUEL POLLUTING VEHICLE ON THE ROAD. By the time this one wears out, they should have the fuel cell technology pretty dialed - BMW is already pushing the idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I think this does nothing to spoil fuel cell technology. It should probably be used in conjunction with it. Why wouldn't you want to transfer the breaking energy back into usable energy? There will still be a need for fuel efficiency even though the source will be clean burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 CONGRATS!!! New stuff is always fun! We'll have to ask you again in a year whatcha think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 MisterE said: erik said: SAD THING ABOUT HYBRIDS IS THAT THEY ARE PROLLY MORE OF A SPOILER FOR ALTERNATIVE FUELS SOURCE VEHICLES. COMPANIES SPENDING ALL THE R&D INTO A PATCH TO THE ISSUE OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES. THESE SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA NOW, BUT IN THE LONG RUN THEY WILL NOT BE WORTH THE MONEY. THEY WILL BE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR AND ONE DAY BE THE ONLY FOSSILL FUEL POLLUTING VEHICLE ON THE ROAD. By the time this one wears out, they should have the fuel cell technology pretty dialed - BMW is already pushing the idea... GENERAL MOTORS IS ACTUALLY THE LEADING MAJOR CAN MANUFACTURE LEADING THE CHARGE. THEY HAVE ALREADY BUILT PROTOTYPE CARS AND FUEL CELLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Its all DaimlerChrysler. I remember GM was gonna come out with a fuell cell minivan. They were gonna call it the IMPACT. I wonder what the crash safety rating on that one woulda been. That's right up there with selling Chevy Nova in South America (No va = "won't go" in pidgin Spanish or Portuguese or somethin') on marketing-doesnt-get-it all time screwups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Fuel cells still need fuel. Where's all the hydrogen going to come from, smart guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: true.. but where are you going to sleep??? stash your gear? pick up hitch hikers??? C'mon dude... that is a mini car Actually I've looked at that car on a web page, and if you believe the specs the new Prius is much bigger and more fuel efficient than the old one. One person could sleep in it (or 2 friendly people) There's been a lot of new research just out that makes the whole fuel cell thing look like it's a lot further away from reality than folks were talking about last year. It sounds like Hybrids will be arround for a while. I hear folks are working on a big hybrid diesel truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.radon Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 MisterE said: Gets 60 MPG They borrowed some technology from big mining trucks that use the braking power to charge the batteries, pretty cool. The regenerative braking technology has been around for a long time, thats nothing new. I don't understand why more people don't buy the TDI VW's? They are so much more practical. A Co-worker drove his TDI from Seattle to Denver and got 57mpg averaging 78mph. Cost is less and you get more car for the money, can put a roof rack on and if you get the Jetta station wagon, a place to sleep. Does this car have a crap load of earth unfriendly batteries? The TDI's only need a battery to start the car and get about the same gas milage.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 mr.radon said: MisterE said: Gets 60 MPG They borrowed some technology from big mining trucks that use the braking power to charge the batteries, pretty cool. The regenerative braking technology has been around for a long time, thats nothing new. I don't understand why more people don't buy the TDI VW's? They are so much more practical. A Co-worker drove his TDI from Seattle to Denver and got 57mpg averaging 78mph. Cost is less and you get more car for the money, can put a roof rack on and if you get the Jetta station wagon, a place to sleep. Does this car have a crap load of earth unfriendly batteries? The TDI's only need a battery to start the car and get about the same gas milage.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 erik said: mr.radon said: MisterE said: Gets 60 MPG They borrowed some technology from big mining trucks that use the braking power to charge the batteries, pretty cool. The regenerative braking technology has been around for a long time, thats nothing new. I don't understand why more people don't buy the TDI VW's? They are so much more practical. A Co-worker drove his TDI from Seattle to Denver and got 57mpg averaging 78mph. Cost is less and you get more car for the money, can put a roof rack on and if you get the Jetta station wagon, a place to sleep. Does this car have a crap load of earth unfriendly batteries? The TDI's only need a battery to start the car and get about the same gas milage.... msrp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 23 GRAND ALSO THE PRICE OF A CAR HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH IT NOW A DAYS. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE FINANCING ONE CAN GET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 erik said: 23 GRAND ALSO THE PRICE OF A CAR HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH IT NOW A DAYS. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE FINANCING ONE CAN GET. for the wagon or the sedan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Sphinx said: Fuel cells still need fuel. Where's all the hydrogen going to come from, smart guys? BIOMASS the latest scientific american reports they just developed a new catalyst for removing hydrogen from plant waste such as corn husks and ethanol what a waste of ethanol though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoboy Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 wood burning vw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHE Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Dru said: what a waste of ethanol though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 Think I could run it on a fuel cell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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