catbirdseat Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Caffeine is good because it is stimulant. It gets your heart rate up. It's also bad because it is a diuretic and can promote dehydration. Twight likes it. I need it. So in the balance, is it good or bad? And if good, then how much is good and how much is too much? For example, Twight talks about tailing off on caffeine consumption in the week before a climb so that a smaller amount has a bigger effect on the climb day (if I remember correctly). Beat Poem, courtesy DPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 I never drink caffine in my regular life, but I do often bring Gu, which has caffine on climbs. I generally get a good result from it since my body is not used to caffine. I just make sure to keep good and hydrated with or without caffine, and manage to not have problems. -josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 caffeine is very good. taking time away from it makes it work well on climbs. I find it brings a positive attitude to climbs and a general "psyched to be there" feeling. but maybe that's just the addiction talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figger_Eight Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 It's good. That new Gu with caffeine is even better. They just need to start making caffeinated horsecock now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 love those mint chocolate cliff bars with the juice in em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted June 26, 2003 Author Share Posted June 26, 2003 I was on a climb once on a really hot day and got leg cramps. One of my partners laid all the blame on the two cups of coffee I'd had that morning. I think it was more like being out of shape and not drinking enough water. This individual advised against even chocolate (eegads!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 caffeine. pfft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 ridiculous. you were dehydrated, hot, and tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 catbirdseat said: One of my partners laid all the blame on the two cups of coffee I'd had that morning. [...] This individual advised against even chocolate (eegads!). was that individual a mormon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Coffee = good. Caffeine = bad. I drink coffee followed by ample amounts of water to counter the diuretic effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 life would fuckin suck without coffee and chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 are mormons not allowed to have coffee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Outside Magazine has a brief article on the pro's/con's of Coffee and caffine in the June edition. Basically, what their researcher says is if you are sitting around like in an office environment, you'll feel the diaruetic effect but, if you are performing physical work within 3-4 hours, you won't. I don't really get it becasue I "feel the effect" within 30 minute of a cup o' joe. Having said that, I love coffee all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissNormandy Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Kiwi said: Coffee = good. Caffeine = bad. I drink coffee followed by ample amounts of water to counter the diuretic effects. Drugs are bad! Didn't you take DARE? I have completely eliminated caffeine from my diet. I've found that if you take care of your body and get enough sleep, you don't need stimulants in the first place. Caffeine makes you age faster, it makes you store bodyfat, it may temporarily boost your metabolism but your body ends up overcompensating and you come out below in the end, it dehydrates you, it increases your risk for heart attack and stroke, it messes with your circulation and it makes your breast tissue lumpy. Yuck! Now who wants that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 hmm that person's eye's look awfully dilated in the dare photo.... in stressful climbing or accident response situations caffeine helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Caffeine increases cAMP levels and decreases the effectiveness of aquaporins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted June 26, 2003 Author Share Posted June 26, 2003 OMG, I wouldn't want to get lumpy breasts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 i'm pretty sure those lumps on my frontside are breasts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissNormandy Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 iain said: hmm that person's eye's look awfully dilated in the dare photo.... I had just come back from the eye doctor, I swear!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 MissNormandy said: I have completely eliminated caffeine from my diet. I've found that if you take care of your body and get enough sleep, you don't need stimulants in the first place. Caffeine makes you age faster, it makes you store bodyfat, it may temporarily boost your metabolism but your body ends up overcompensating and you come out below in the end, it dehydrates you, it increases your risk for heart attack and stroke, it messes with your circulation and it makes your breast tissue lumpy. Yuck! Now who wants that? you have zero appreciation of the caffeine achiever. btw, i want lumpy breast tissue. and for you fuckin history buffs the introduction of coffee to europe helped pull that shithole outta the dark ages. so fuck you if you cant hang being at the top of the food chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 iain said: are mormons not allowed to have coffee? not allowed to have caffeine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 once I put instant coffee in a microwave and almost went back in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglehead Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 Coffee! Mmmmm! Actually I drink espresso, which (if you can believe it) has less caffeine than regular coffee. I Can drink 5 shots a day or none. Either way I'm good, but I definitely gotta have my chocolate when I'm climbing! Hell, even water is bad for you if you drink too much of it. Like Chris Rock says "Red meat won't kill ya, green meat'll kill ya!" to caffeination. And I think heroin is much, MUCH worse than caffeine, isn' t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 thelawgoddess said: iain said: are mormons not allowed to have coffee? not allowed to have caffeine. HEY!!!! me either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted June 26, 2003 Share Posted June 26, 2003 MissNormandy said: Kiwi said: Coffee = good. Caffeine = bad. I drink coffee followed by ample amounts of water to counter the diuretic effects. Drugs are bad! Didn't you take DARE? I have completely eliminated caffeine from my diet. I've found that if you take care of your body and get enough sleep, you don't need stimulants in the first place. Caffeine makes you age faster, it makes you store bodyfat, it may temporarily boost your metabolism but your body ends up overcompensating and you come out below in the end, it dehydrates you, it increases your risk for heart attack and stroke, it messes with your circulation and it makes your breast tissue lumpy. Yuck! Now who wants that? we've got a narcissist here. she's plastered her pic. everywhere and blasted us over at nwhikers.com. so, lady, you gonna hang with us bad boyZ or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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