mattp Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 In the interest of fairness and the American Way, I should report that the snaffles' get a bad rap around here. I recently left some hiking shoes along the roadside in Eightmile Creek for two weeks and when I went back to get them, the little bitty cutie critters had only chewed me a nice new fringe around the edges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jkrueger Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 mattp said: I recently left some hiking shoes along the roadside in Eightmile Creek for two weeks and when I went back to get them, the little bitty cutie critters had only chewed me a nice new fringe around the edges. They were shoes... don't confuse kindness with survival instinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 Snaffles don't discriminate. Probably the opposite. If the shoes were old stinky and salty the Snaffles would have been all over that shit, like a mountain goat on piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 specialed, Â Waaaaaaaaaay cool avatar image. Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 DIAMONDS AND RUST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 trask said: Â Martins aren't snaffles. They eat snaffles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 specialed said: nolanr said: The Sierras don't have so much in the way of either, as far as I've seen. A few pikas, and scrawny little yellow marmots that won't even whistle at you. Our hoary marmots would beat the hell out of the Californians. Â Clearly you haven't had a run-in with a Ring-Tail cat. Â I haven't. Do they have those in the mountains? I thought they were mostly down by the Mexican border. I don't think I would count those as snaffles either, related to raccoons aren't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Okay mountain fashion police, you might have to come take me away. I usually wear swim trunk style nylon shorts and a polypro top. If it's real cold or I think I'm going to be plowing thru lots of snow, I wear polypro bottoms. It works, what's wrong w/ that? I just make sure I don't have the Superman outfit going on. I just don't like wearing pants when I'm hiking/climbing. I don't have a Seattle sombrero, but I got the next best thing, the Sitka. Only difference is snaps vs. velcro on the sides. Now let me tell you why I like that thing. The brim is wide enough to keep the rain off of most of your body w/out having to wear a jacket. I usually overheat when I'm moving and I have the parka on, unless it's real cold. And w/ the sombrero, you don't cover your ears or block your peripheral vision like you do when you're wearing a hood, makes me feel like I'm insulated from the world around me, which is NOT what I want when I'm outside. So do your worst to me fashion nazis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 trask said: Â Hey, Trashk, something is wrong with your website, the hatemail won't go through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 nolanr said: Okay mountain fashion police, you might have to come take me away. I usually wear swim trunk style nylon shorts and a polypro top. If it's real cold or I think I'm going to be plowing thru lots of snow, I wear polypro bottoms. It works, what's wrong w/ that? I just make sure I don't have the Superman outfit going on. I just don't like wearing pants when I'm hiking/climbing. I don't have a Seattle sombrero, but I got the next best thing, the Sitka. Only difference is snaps vs. velcro on the sides. Now let me tell you why I like that thing. The brim is wide enough to keep the rain off of most of your body w/out having to wear a jacket. I usually overheat when I'm moving and I have the parka on, unless it's real cold. And w/ the sombrero, you don't cover your ears or block your peripheral vision like you do when you're wearing a hood, makes me feel like I'm insulated from the world around me, which is NOT what I want when I'm outside. So do your worst to me fashion nazis! Â we cant do anything worse to you than what youve already done to yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 So what should I be wearing, pink lycra tights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 nolanr said: So what should I be wearing, pink lycra tights? Â your mothers underwear! Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 nolanr said: Okay mountain fashion police, you might have to come take me away. I usually wear swim trunk style nylon shorts and a polypro top. If it's real cold or I think I'm going to be plowing thru lots of snow, I wear polypro bottoms. It works, what's wrong w/ that? I just make sure I don't have the Superman outfit going on. I just don't like wearing pants when I'm hiking/climbing. I don't have a Seattle sombrero, but I got the next best thing, the Sitka. Only difference is snaps vs. velcro on the sides. Now let me tell you why I like that thing. The brim is wide enough to keep the rain off of most of your body w/out having to wear a jacket. I usually overheat when I'm moving and I have the parka on, unless it's real cold. And w/ the sombrero, you don't cover your ears or block your peripheral vision like you do when you're wearing a hood, makes me feel like I'm insulated from the world around me, which is NOT what I want when I'm outside. So do your worst to me fashion nazis! Assimilate, dood! Be alternative, just like eveybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Attitude said: nolanr said: Okay mountain fashion police, you might have to come take me away. I usually wear swim trunk style nylon shorts and a polypro top. If it's real cold or I think I'm going to be plowing thru lots of snow, I wear polypro bottoms. It works, what's wrong w/ that? I just make sure I don't have the Superman outfit going on. I just don't like wearing pants when I'm hiking/climbing. I don't have a Seattle sombrero, but I got the next best thing, the Sitka. Only difference is snaps vs. velcro on the sides. Now let me tell you why I like that thing. The brim is wide enough to keep the rain off of most of your body w/out having to wear a jacket. I usually overheat when I'm moving and I have the parka on, unless it's real cold. And w/ the sombrero, you don't cover your ears or block your peripheral vision like you do when you're wearing a hood, makes me feel like I'm insulated from the world around me, which is NOT what I want when I'm outside. So do your worst to me fashion nazis! Assimilate, dood! Be alternative, just like eveybody else.  How alternative is it if everybody's doing it? How 'bout not being alternative to be different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Schoeller gives better performance and looks nicer. Hell, i wore my dead bird schoeller pants to a job interview! they look like dress pants almost. Â anatoli boukriev only had one shirt and one pair of pants that he wore everywhere from weddings to 8000m peaks. you cant do that with polypro and fleece but you can with schoeller. i cheat, i have a pair of carhartts too for trad rock and fixing my car. Â the brim on the seattle somb. is way too small. i wear a kiwi drover hat if i need a hat. impractical for alpine climbing but good for hiking in the rain. like a umbrella for your head. and doesnt bleach-out like a nylon hat does if you wear it in bright sun on glaciers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 nolanr said: specialed said: nolanr said: The Sierras don't have so much in the way of either, as far as I've seen. A few pikas, and scrawny little yellow marmots that won't even whistle at you. Our hoary marmots would beat the hell out of the Californians. Â Clearly you haven't had a run-in with a Ring-Tail cat. Â I haven't. Do they have those in the mountains? I thought they were mostly down by the Mexican border. I don't think I would count those as snaffles either, related to raccoons aren't they? Anybody who's ever bivied on Dinner Ledge has probably gotten well aquainted with the ringtail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Charlie said: nolanr said: specialed said: nolanr said: The Sierras don't have so much in the way of either, as far as I've seen. A few pikas, and scrawny little yellow marmots that won't even whistle at you. Our hoary marmots would beat the hell out of the Californians. Â Clearly you haven't had a run-in with a Ring-Tail cat. Â I haven't. Do they have those in the mountains? I thought they were mostly down by the Mexican border. I don't think I would count those as snaffles either, related to raccoons aren't they? Anybody who's ever bivied on Dinner Ledge has probably gotten well aquainted with the ringtail hey charlie, you ole' cum guzzler...how goes the battle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 nolanr said: specialed said: nolanr said: The Sierras don't have so much in the way of either, as far as I've seen. A few pikas, and scrawny little yellow marmots that won't even whistle at you. Our hoary marmots would beat the hell out of the Californians. Â Clearly you haven't had a run-in with a Ring-Tail cat. Â I haven't. Do they have those in the mountains? I thought they were mostly down by the Mexican border. I don't think I would count those as snaffles either, related to raccoons aren't they? Â What are you saying? Coons is Snaffles. Â Ringtale cats are all over the Sierra. Well atleast in Yosemite valley anyway. This one fuckin Ringtail harrassed us all night during bivy on top of El Cap. Thing kept waking us up. Went all the way into our big ass pig and stole a bag of cookies or some shit. For the first time I was wishing I was still on the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 Dru said: Schoeller gives better performance and looks nicer. Hell, i wore my dead bird schoeller pants to a job interview! they look like dress pants almost. Â anatoli boukriev only had one shirt and one pair of pants that he wore everywhere from weddings to 8000m peaks. you cant do that with polypro and fleece but you can with schoeller. i cheat, i have a pair of carhartts too for trad rock and fixing my car. Â the brim on the seattle somb. is way too small. i wear a kiwi drover hat if i need a hat. impractical for alpine climbing but good for hiking in the rain. like a umbrella for your head. and doesnt bleach-out like a nylon hat does if you wear it in bright sun on glaciers. Â I agree with the schoeller comments, and I use a Kavu Chillba for hiking (it *is* an umbrella for your head ) I'll be trying out some light beige schoeller pants this summer for glacier climbing, but I'm worried that they might still be a little too warm. I may have to revert back to white patagucci silkweight for those hot days on the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Okay, let's clear this thing up. What is a snaffle? Definitions please. Is it any critter that gets into your food or otherwise bothers you? I generally assumed all snaffles came from the rodent family. If it's a broader definition, then ya gotta include birds like crows, camp robbers, gulls, maybe some larger mammals like deer and goats, and definitely bears, maybe the world's largest snaffle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 I'd go any critter smaller than a breadbox, and not of the winged variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 I consider the smith rock pigeons to be flying snafflehounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolanr Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Man, the pigeons at Frenchman Coulee, when they really get going w/ the cooing around mid-morning, that's a deafening roar. Need some raptors over there eating those suckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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