allison Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Discuss. Be specific, and use examples if necessary. Quote
Skisports Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 If you can't figure out that for yourself... I am sorry no one can help you Quote
Jake Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Well, there is that rating system of classes 1-5 to start with. Real climbing would start at class 4, i figure. Class three would be more scrambling so it would fall under something similiar to hiking. For instance, you can really hike/scramble to the top of many peaks, though lots of people will say "I climbed that mountain" when all they really did was scramble up a hill around trees and rocks. Quote
Bill_Simpkins Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Climbing is making progress towards an objective when the use of hands is required. Â Hiking is walking for pleasure or exercise. Quote
cracked Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 I'm with Skisports. But, hiking is fucking boring. Climbing is usually a combination of being fun, scary, dangerous, slow, and miserable. Hiking is only slightly preferable to watching TV. I won't go on a hike for the sake of hiking. I'll hike to get somewhere to climb something, and occasionally I'll hike to get acclimated in CO. Quote
cluck Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 I'd say it's climbing if you need to use your hands. Although, if I use an ice axe, I'll still call it climbing even if I'm not actually grabbing onto the mountain with my hands. Quote
JoshK Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Skisports said: If you can't figure out that for yourself... I am sorry no one can help you  HAHAHAH Yeah, no doubt. Quote
allison Posted March 5, 2003 Author Posted March 5, 2003 I'm not necessarily asking for myself, FWIW, but am curious as to where most climbers draw the line. Thinker and I disucussed this in front of Newstips last night and I thought her head was going to start spinning. Quote
Dru Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 the difference is the same as the diff between nwhikers.net and cascadeclimbers.com Quote
freeclimb9 Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 You can hike a climb, but you can't climb a hike. claro? Quote
Thinker Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 but seriously, we've all seen the recent confusion in the media about lost hikers vs lost climbers. The SAR on Hood is focused on a lost snowshoer!....where does he fit in? Â my off the cuff proposal last night at Pub Club (albeit after a few brews) is that hikers wear jeans and climbers wear goretex....as a very general distinction....but you get the point. Â An alternative viewpoint was proposed that serious 'hikers' could very well be wearing high-tech fabrics, esp when they're experienced backcountry travellers, and that the difference between hikers and climbers needed to be diferentiated by the type of gear they carry or use. Â I personally still like my quick and easy method for determining by clothing as I usually associate 'hikers' with the meddlesome tourons near the trailheads. But in a more specific and pure sense, the alternative viewpoint may have some merit, too. Â Whatever.............................spray, spray, spray................. Quote
erik Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Thinker said: but seriously, we've all seen the recent confusion in the media about lost hikers vs lost climbers. The SAR on Hood is focused on a lost snowshoer!....where does he fit in? Â my off the cuff proposal last night at Pub Club (albeit after a few brews) is that hikers wear jeans and climbers wear goretex....as a very general distinction....but you get the point. Â An alternative viewpoint was proposed that serious 'hikers' could very well be wearing high-tech fabrics, esp when they're experienced backcountry travellers, and that the difference between hikers and climbers needed to be diferentiated by the type of gear they carry or use. Â I personally still like my quick and easy method for determining by clothing as I usually associate 'hikers' with the meddlesome tourons near the trailheads. But in a more specific and pure sense, the alternative viewpoint may have some merit, too. Â Whatever.............................spray, spray, spray................. Â I hike in tech fabrics and climb in jeans all the time. Â Â Quote
Thinker Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 way to go erik....blow my whole theory 5 minutes after I post it Quote
Dru Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Thinker said: way to go erik....blow my whole theory 5 minutes after I post it  Ben Firth sent Musashi (M12) in carhartts Quote
fleblebleb Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Not a problem since you rarely if ever see anybody hiking in carhartts. Quote
RobBob Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 The real poll This thread is fucking retarded. Â Â This is the funniest thing Caveman's said in awhile. Quote
erik Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 fleblebleb said: Not a problem since you rarely if ever see anybody hiking in carhartts.  flebby  i always hike in the desert wearing jeans. seriously! carhartts tend to ward off prickly stuff and have less of a chance to be penetrated by a snake bite of sumpin..  plus that cotton duck material has the best friction in sandstone ow's!!!!!   Quote
tomcat Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 You can hike with a beer in your hand, but you can't climb with a beer in your hand (unless you've got that special talent). Quote
erik Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 AlpenTom said: You can hike with a beer in your hand, but you can't climb with a beer in your hand (unless you've got that special talent). Â thats why they make chalk bags! Â instead of chalking up, take a slug from the PABST can. and send! send! send! Â Â Â Quote
allison Posted March 5, 2003 Author Posted March 5, 2003 Figger_Eight said: Hikers don't go above the treeline. Â I think a few hikers would disagree with that notion! Quote
tomcat Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 erik said: AlpenTom said: You can hike with a beer in your hand, but you can't climb with a beer in your hand (unless you've got that special talent). Â thats why they make chalk bags! Â instead of chalking up, take a slug from the PABST can. and send! send! send! Â Â Â Quote
ChrisT Posted March 5, 2003 Posted March 5, 2003 Jake said: For instance, you can really hike/scramble to the top of many peaks, though lots of people will say "I climbed that mountain" when all they really did was scramble up a hill around trees and rocks. true dat. I scrambled to the top of 14,000' in the sierras...no climbing involved. Quote
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