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that's great, Porter, and I agree with what you're saying, but we're clearly looking at a class here. So would that equate to 1 instructor and 2 students? Could take a while to cycle the whole class through the module, hmm? [GAPER WARNING] Since this seems as good a place as any to interject this, CWMR will conclude its Basic Mountaineering Class this Saturday with much of the same as what you see in the OP pic (except the class size is 18 and 6 instructors, and we will be split up into two groups and separated). We will also be on the Nisqually. [/GAPER WARNING] On Sunday, the unit members of CWMR will hold their own unit training for the use of litters in crevasse work. Maximum party size will be 12 souls. Well, 11 souls and me, for I have no soul.

I count no less than 30 people in that pic. I thought party size in MRNP was limited to twelve?

I am glad that they have been found. My condolences go out to their friends and family. Again. Thanks for posting that , Kevin.

You've missed the point, Cornfed. Thirty dollars per annum isn't going to set me back very far, either. I also support AF and I've been volunteering in Mountain Rescue for more than 5 years now. The issue is not how much it costs, but rather the fact that it costs anything in the first place. The fee is another tax, one which I already pay every year when I file my IRS 1040. The fact that you believe your "donation" goes to support trails and stuff is just more government disinformation. The trailheads where I've seen the signs and gotten warnings don't even have any "amenities" for which I would have ostensibly paid, were I to allow myself to be swindled out of my $30. Your money goes to support timber sales wherein the government sells the timber below market value. It also goes to support actions/policies/regulations designed to benefit groups/organizations the likes of which I do not support. It goes for enforcement of a misguided program that isn't needed in the first place. Lastly, it was a program that was never commentd upon by teh users - that's you and me. It was attached as a rider to an omnibus spending bill years ago, and by virtue of its fraudulent perpetuation, it became a law. And it's a discriminatory one at that. So in my mind, it's more than "just $30 a year." It's a principle.

yeah, kinda do. You got one lying around that you're not using? couldn't resist it

yeah, kinda do. You got one lying around that you're not using?

Good for you, Rudy! :tup: Mine's a proposal interview for a new grade separation project over in Pasco. Tomorrow at 3:00. Come 4:00 tomorrow, I'll be poppin' tops! :brew:

From my linked thread above from 2004: I thought this shit got repealed (on NFS lands) a few years ago?

that's pretty funny. i'm gonna have to try that in the mall here. btw, she was pretty hawt. I can't repeat that part...

oh, nothing then. nevermind, hon. carry on...

Thank you, pink and tvash, for that lovely little banterfest of presidentialisms. That was a fine break for levity during my lunch hour. I must now get back to work - crushing on a deadline, ya know... Good day!

I was implying that I would be seated in biz class. Silly Clavote...

Fatherly "Somebody's agonna getta hurt real baaaaaaaaad."

Puss. It passed the sniff test. It's TUNA fer chrissakes!!!1 It smells the same a week later as it does on the first day, no matter what's wrong with it (or not)! DANGER!!!1 WARNING, WILL ROBINSON!

FAWK man, you working this weekend, too? I've got an interview for a grade separation proposal on Wednesday, plus I need to do the QA/QC review for the US-95 (CDA to Sandpoint) project this coming week. I'm gonna die...

I would posit that it depends highly upon who is doing the yanking...

Then I'm a born-again virgin about 60 times over

cuz it's in Sweden. You only need fences around cool/rare stuff in America. When are you gonna put up another avatar pic? We're dying here

Nice to hear that Kevin got out and got some. Chad, are you the Chad that is to be the SMR liaison to me at CWMR? Kevin handed over the reins to someone, and your name rings a bell.

I don't think anybody got it, Sherri

That's just what I was thinking...

Mebbe it is time to book my trip to Chamonix... for work, of course...

I look forward to my new issue of ANAM like a kid looks forward to a visit from Santa Claus. I read it a few times, then put it aside. Then I pick up a few of my back issues and re-read them. It seems like there's always at least an issue or two floating around in my truck. Makes for great lunchtime reading, being as how they're sorta like a book of short stories...

Nope, never paid (haven't actually been ticketed yet), but I write them back on every warning. I seem to get a lot of them. Mebbe they have me "bracketed" and will send in black helicopters on my next "infraction." I've had unpaid parking tickets (by an ex-GF using my car) keep me from getting a home loan. Her $15 ticket in my truck turned into a $130 settlement to get my loan approved. Goddman bitch, knew there was a reason I dumped her... AFAIK, I think they can only try to take you to court over the Fee "Demo" (bullshit!) thing. But ask ivan. I think he really got raked over the coals for his ticket a coupla years ago. ivan- that was you, wasn't it?

All right, I couldn't stand it. Here's a thread from a few years ago with some creative ways to beat/fight the ticket (John Frieh's is especially creative). That thread links to an even older thread about this shit fee demo program. Wade through all the shit in both threads. You'll have time to do so before you get your "friendly reminder" in the mail. This pic from mtnnut's post is classic! PS: Scott Silvers' website is wildwilderness.org Check out this link.