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quote: Originally posted by Recriminator: Eric think it could be karma ?Blasting sport routes at vantage than getting on one .Mike Massy and Matt kerns put up that route and it never was a trad route.I have done that route and unless there is slack in your system there are no bad falls . 1st of all i was mostly pisseD cause my foot hurt too bad to go to index on sunday.... 1st of all i never blasted sport routes at vantage, all i said was that i thought there is too much development there and that maybe whom ever is removing the hangers(not chopping bolts liket everyone cries about)and the current area develops should slow down and look what they are creating....... second of all you have to believe in something(karma in this case) for it to be a concern...... 3rdly i know who put the route up and i do know people who can lead it tradtional(i want to this year) 4th there was no slack in the rope, if you look at the route and get sucked over the the right holds at the bulge you are targeted right above that mini slab, so when i fell thats what i glanced off of.... and last thing recrim....this morning beofre i came to work i managed a nice 45 minute jog, so other then the superficial pain in my foot i will be okay....so i guess i was just moslty pissed that i missed a day at index and i still think alot of the bolts out there need to be considered better....... [ 02-11-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

so i can now rage along with allison on bolt placement... yesterday at our fine eastisde basalt crag we all affectionality now as vantage....i was working my way up a fine little trad climb called cold cut combo.....funny thing is there are bolts on it??!?!?! but thats not the point...so i go clipi the 4th bolt and am getting some serious flame as i continue to miss the clip...ugh!! so i drop rope and prepare for my doom..... dr jay did a fine job catching me!! but i was still lucky enough to hit the little slab right below the bulge!!!! now my foot hurts really fucking bad and my tailbone feels like it is vibrating this morning..... now what i am bitching about is as i looked at alot of the climbs at vantage...if you fall from the second bolt you will deck...and sometimes you might hit something else..... was any of this considered when they rapp bolts these lines???? eiher way my foot really really hurts i am going back to bed!

brody0

quote: Originally posted by specialed: 1400 different colors!!!???? No way! i didnt believe it at first either, but then when i was on the mall level i snuck into a paint store and stole the color matching computer..... the game is soo cool man it is kinda like grand theft auto+ bubble bobble.... though the controllers are confusing

quote: Originally posted by allison: Yeah, uh, Tacomaboy seems to have it out for me.... hardly i am pure fun all the time.....and my mom always told me to be leary of people that you meet on the internet...... cause i am sketchy!!!!!

too bad it is the law in washington to carry chains in your vehicle is you expect to do any mountain driving between nov-mar and anyways when you have 4 wheel drive all that means i you have 4 wheels spining instead of two.....cuase the real trick is stopping not going.......

quote: Originally posted by klar404: Whoa dude.... you, like, need a FLEECE SHEILD to keep eric from harshin' yer mellow. ya i know that guy erik who spells his name with a 'c' is a real jerk, just ask anyone....

actually allison the accepted pub club attire is naked......

matt, i still don't quite think the issue lies with people just stealing the hangers....sure thats what they are doing, but why???? and to put in glue in bolts you would have to redrill and that is messy and if they retro bolted alot of the those routes with as many bolts they have in them now....i might just weaken the rock..... and i also dont think making the bolts and hanger more permantent does anything but detract from the area..... i still say leave vantage alone for know.....there was controversy putting alot of the routes up and there will be alot of controversy taking them down...... i am going out there again this saturday and i will preport back some more of my investigations... anyone else want to come, it's only cragging might as well bring everyone!!!!!!

we will ever know....another of lifes little mysteries

quote: Originally posted by Charlie: How about the commercials during the superbowl- which was your favorite? charlie, the blasaphmay!!!! which one was everyone favorite.........i drink pepsi for one reason!

another thing special is that the other night i was over at my friends house and caught a glimpse of the new christina aguliara xbox game.....pretty cool stuff....i really liked the way i could choose 1400 different colors for her hair....and the amount of clothing options blew my mind away!!!!!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by specialed: Does anyone know when Britney Spears' new album is coming out? special email dwyaner i believe he already has a copy and also the new best of dvd....that guy has the hook up sometimes.......

meatb the 1st step is getting rid of your kayak....like zena said you might drownd......i personally would say that kayaking is more dangerous then talking shit about lesbians in san francisco..... i sold my soul recnetly for a chica and i am now only starting to make principal payments to the devil to buy it back..... i say go climb, move from argon and hide in the mountains until the heat has passed.....

i think the original idea was so that you would not have to take your pack off to get to the tools...you just reach around undo the buckle and viola... but i may be wrong i am sketchy

climb the muir tree!!!!! thats the best thing to do in the valley hands down.....

you know i am reading about all these sleeping bags for sale and the such and it brings up a couple of old stories of mine..... what are yours cause i need to judge how appropiate i should make them

you know i am starting to wonder anut gregm first the naked baby now some gay people plus he has lust for dan larson......were you in thr army greg??? scary

I THINK WE NEED TO ERASE PHILS POST THAT IS TOO GAY!!!!

you know the thing that gets me about these rags is the lack of photo galleries.....what the fuck!!!!!! i always thought those were the best part of the rags and now if there are two pics it is a miracle...... i say we blow them up!!!

okay okay i got one: 'specialed' thank you thank you please hold your applause!

quote: Originally posted by MATT B: I have a problem but I want to face it. My name is Matt and I I need help. About 3 years ago I moved from Yosemite, got a job, got a girlfriend and got a kayak. Is there a cure for me matt in my professional opinion i would say you are screwed....run for the hills and leave your tupperware at home.....

fairwether et al..... please spell my damn name right....it is not like there is no where to find the correct spelling..... anyway i am the 25th person my family to carry my name so atleast do it for the respect of history...

that or try this website http://www.freedomofmind.com/

quote: Originally posted by Gordonb: What do you guys mean by it is best never to fall? If you always climb with the idea that you can't fall how do you advance and try new skills? I am new to climbing and I expect to be falling a lot while I am working on technique, and I do. I do almost all my climbing on TR right now. If I started out with the idea that I couldn't fall then I would be stuck on 5.7s. I know that many of you would NEVER be seen on a bolted sport climb, so how do you push the limits of your skills? Or are you that are the deriding sport climbers the same ones that are hanging (and I mean hanging) around Vertical World complaining about the route grades? [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Gordonb ] gordon, it is not tjat we are saying don't fall. it is that we are saying don't accept falling....i mean we waste soo much money on all this gear that we use, that if you have made perfect practice at placing perfect pieces the fear of falling on them is just that a fear and all fears can be overcome, wether it be by many many succesful routes or just simple conditioning of your mind.....i don't like to fall, but i do....up until only recently i was really weirded out about falling then i took a phatty(thank you yellow alien) and after that i had no resvervations about it..... all fear is self created it is preconceived notions in our heads.....mostly what it was for me, was that i over thought the situation trying to factor in all the variables......i was getting into my own head and defeating myself....how can you push yourself when all you can think about is getting hurt???? simplify the route, like drul saud break it down into smaller parts....when i am leading a route i only look at the immediate, where is the next piece what moves does it take to get there.....i do not ask myself wether or not i can make, cause i know i can...even if i am at my limit....visualize success not faliure....