erik

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=000350help feed this poor and unfortunate soul.......

nice work boyz(w, forrest & other dudes) and i thing to note is that a good friend 'with experience' tried to relocate it once and all that happened is that i passed out from the pain.....so i am leary when anyone wants to relocate a shoulder......

quote: Originally posted by dyno merchant: by the way... i'm scared every time that eric enters a post. i feel like he's the cc.com bully.(or maybe i'm just a pussy!) hardly bro i am the nicest person on the planet....ask anyone..... this is what my mom told me.... being a realist is hard....cause sometime reality aint nice.... p.s. dyno would you please spell my name correctly. thank you so very much for doing that, my family and i greatly appreciate it....again thank you!

bone i aint the lord of anything, never said i was....quit implying shit....i think i can climb only 2 or 3 routes out there .....sheesh all that chalk dust has gone straight to your brain...... and yes i am self rightous as all get out....part of my self destructive personality....... sayjay i never did knock on gym climbers....just made an observation and commented on it.... and where do i climb with a 7am-6pm/5 job, well shit bro i dont know i got other things going on during the week.......get hold of me thursday night..... feel free to join us anytime.....caveman and i are shooting for a winter ascent of sabre soon, does anyone have any extra pitons for the anchor we can borrow.....?

quote: Originally posted by sayjay: erik: so what's your problem w/ using features in a gym for practice? (i know, i know, it's not the *same* as being on real rock, but it does improve skills more than doing, well, *nothing*, which is the other option for those of us who can't get out on the real stuff during the week). two things sayjay: first of all when does the climbing season start and end??? i have heard this before....it worries me that i do not know when the season is cause i tend to be out there all the time and i would hate to get caught for clibing out of season.....any info oyu could relay would be greatly appreciated....thank you in advance... second of all i dont climb in gyms....see above and to trask werd!!!!

pitch length varies from pitch to pitch.... it all depends on the route and what not.. and as far as rappelling the 60m pitches if oyu rap the route then most likely, but then again sometime there is another way off.

quote: Originally posted by specialed: [ 02-11-2002: Message edited by: specialed ] good pic special ned, i took some like that a couple weeks ago check them out jgioshgiofdgiosfhiohgiosfhogs\- thats me tearing it up dfkjghjklfhgjkhgasdjgfyuiatq3478tgr- thats my frined toby jumping djghjkfhgjkhghvjkldghjkdfvgjkfgh- both of us before we dropped in and here is the best one: flgkljfdhgjkfhgivue897y6twruihgow5uityu7%^^$

so where we gonna do it at this week????

i'll do it though i barly fall into that catagorey freshie= fresh snow

i heard they uses dynamite.... BOOM! nothing left

talk to big jon i know he has about 10 of them and what would one person need ten beer containers for......

ayce, check out the major insurance companies for a job....you might not work within your field but they generally pay okay and give you benefits thjat are quite nice

i had heard that scenic hot springs was detroyed by the power that be......

forrest one thing to note with shoulder dislocations is you should see what direction the should came out.....i had the dislocation problem for two years before i got it fixed and i learned and used several different methods for putting it back into place.... another thing to note is do not try to put a shoulder back into place unless you have skilled instruction.....i have heard of people damaging nerves and other tissues by attempting to rejoint it....... thanks for the beta though

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sayjay i took your response as stating that trad climbers do not use features....i use them all the time. my fat ass needs everything i can to get up the hardest 5.4+ route in the world.... and actually i levitate to the top of most climbs....all that gear just wieghs my soul down......

quote: Originally posted by sayjay: like real outdoor rock. Smearing skills, even if you are exclusively a trad climber, . admit it you dont know what you are talking about

quote: Originally posted by dyno merchant: I work at Vertical Relief Climbing Center in Flagstaff and we know how hard it is to clean holds and change routes but we try to make a big effort to do so. Our routes are never up for more than 3 to 3 1/2 months but we only have up to 50 routes and about 60 boulder problems (we clean holds before they go on a new route so our holds stay pretty clean also). how long do you think routes should stay up? another Q...which gyms have the best routesetting and routesetters? why? if you dont change and clean the holds then what would paying for a gym be worth???? isnt that your job to clean and set routes???? i imagine teaching someone to belay is another responsibility, but seriously what is the job of a gym worker??? you gym climbers confuse me......

i know of one suprise lake on the way to the north side of mt rainier....we used to 4x4 up there and party though i dont think you can cross the carbon river there anymore so it out of the question.. but i bet there are like 5-10 suprise lakes within the state alone..... if it scotteryx it must be up around the mtn loop.

in washington state it is illegal to climb roadcuts locate along limited or restricted access hwys....it is considered to create a hazardous situation.....along the linrs of falling rock and ice onto the hwy.... as far as county or other public roads go i imagine enforcement is less....but the law is the law

quote: Originally posted by specialed: I've heard, though haven't tried this method, of wearing a 5 gallon bucket with backpack straps attache dsomehow like a backpack to keep the slack in. I've always just let it dangle and used a clove-hitch backup to keep the weight off my solo device. Maybe someone should invent a half-backpack, half-bucket for solo aiding? hey look someone just did!!! http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/rockclimbing/accessories_speed-bag.html

special i didnt blame anyone...and you are right it is my fault that my weakass fell...... i am just bitching but one thing to consider, if you are installing fixed gear then you should be consider as many hazards as possible.......and if oyu notice i didnt say anything specific about the boltng on this route other then it made me think more about it...... i understand risk quite well since it is a major compoenent of my job...

heres the link to the course, there are no notes on the steepness of any one specific area on the courses http://saltlake2002.sonheavy.com/venues/sno/

and another thing recrim my name is spelt with a 'k' and i know that fact is painfully obvious, so you just must be some asshole.......

allison thanks for the tips, though i tend to shy away from taking most pills. [ 02-11-2002: Message edited by: erik ]