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So does BD pay you to be a press agent? If moving to China makes bad press, maybe they should have considered that and the reasons (some valid) why moving to China makes for bad press

Leave JFK at night at you can be in Chamonix by midday.

Whats the penalty? Deportation to the lEast Coast? Internment in the Bellevue forced labor camp?

It's probably heard as often as "I love 4wd" on I-90 heading to Snoqualmie. Leisure activities are fashion. I'm guilty too - I've a mass of stuff that can climb harder, ski better, and take better photos than I will ever be able too because those things made the most economic sense at the time.

Ummm...yaaahh....I carry around those double axle cams for their good looks....same thing with that highly breathable single wall tent.... well, you epitomize the suburbanite fashion climber ... Never conceived of an excess of functionality being a fashion statement? Check out the Hummers at Bellevue Square some time.

Just a guess they are doing the standard overseas rampup of move assembly then migrate supply chain. There's nothing that special about springs or finishing that necessitates those processes being done in the US. But thats.... just a guess. JayB- If quality standards are held, sure. The problem with overseas manufacturing is maintaining those standards. It's alot harder to manage someone half a world away then in the next building....which has tripped up at least one cam company and more than one ski company. If they can make that change, kudos, it's tripped up more than one multinational. Realistically the money saved just gets spit out to owners and investors. I could give 2 shits about R&D in the outdoor sports industry it's mostly fashion driven. As such a much more succinct statement would be "China is the manufacturing nation of the future for disposable consumer goods. Climbing gear is a disposable consumer good. Deal with it" Maybe I should just drink some more marketing KoolAid

Wow, my colon hasn't seen that much sunshine since Mark came to visit. So your supply chain is currently unchanged. Forgive me for wondering how long you'll bother with the inefficencies of shipping low level, low cost components across the ocean. twice. That is, unless you need some supply ineffeciencies to rationalize for why your cams still sell for $70 a pop retail.

I want my quadrant home. It's handbuilt to look like everything else in the subdivision, errr, yuppie trailer park.

no, nor any brains in Canada

um, yeah, that was the only reason we suceeded.

how about some Thai fishermans pants? they fit you

Huh, I don't trust my computer with my life. And I don't trust anyone who believes in ISO - the only people who do are management and sale dipshits who've never made anything in their life. And I don't think Chinese made products are inherently bad; but as the sign of a costcutting company often are so.

I'm a big fan of capri pants - just make sure they showcase your package.

For who? For Nepalese, probably. For people willing to go to Nepal, good, because they substantially decreased the number of foreign tourists. Cheap. "Unknown & Authentic". Safe. You can only pick two of the three.

The main difference I noted, particularly in Indonesia, is that the luxury resorts required substantial bribes be paid to corrupt officials for construction and operation and were often owned by dummy fronts of corrupt officials. In at least one case the resort was constructed on land seized without compensation from locals. Large scale graft on every level, and the local workers were paid less than they would be otherwise (the resort jobs seemed to be mostly people from other islands who'd migrated). At that level the tourist staying in a several room family owned and run guest house and eating at a family owned restaraunt is encouraging entrepeneurism at a local level and discouraging large scale corruption (the families likely pay bribes but thats a different scale of corruption). I realize I'm a hedonistic hypocrite.

I thought is was sex.....or lack of. Thats why people have affairs. Or at least why men have affairs. Dude, women have just as many affairs as men. True, but for different reasons. I know of at least one marriage that broke up because the wife had a woman on the side.....

the most fun trips/sidetrips I took this year were done without consulting a guidebook or the interweb, completely seat of the pants. I find "sustainable" and backpacking amusing. It's not a sustainable point in the travel development scale (unless you consider the mega hostels of the Aussie Gold Coast "backpacking"), it's not sustainable at an environmental level, and it's not sustainable on a personal finance level. It's just self indulgent tourism that doesn't put as much money into the pockets of locals. As such, live it up while the gettings good.

I've asked the good people at telemarktips.com to weigh in on this issue olyclimber, you can await their expert opinion

The "maoist issue" made Nepal cheaper, except for the Khumbu which was "safe" so all the Westerners flocked there. It all depends on how much of a tightwad you are. No, I won't give out information. The stupid, lazy, and credit card bearing have already fucked up the world enough

I would have a wife but I couldn't come up with the appropriate number of cows earlier this year I was a good wedding guest in Indonesia, I'm sure the 5kg of sugar wedding gift went far.

Senor el Feck:

And all the monkeys arent in a zoo Every day you meet quite a few So you see its all up to you You can be better than you are You could be swinging on a star

you need a nice tool like pink to bolt shit

yes. winter, come soon