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quote: Originally posted by erik: a book that counters your book is "the organic machine" by i think richard levy(?) he is a uw guy, so i bet he got some local perspective....... thanks for the book title. sounds like a good one to look into. i think harden had a pretty good perspective on the matter as well. he lived in moses lake until 22 years of age, and his father helped build grand coulee dam. as part of harden's various research, he rode a barge down the snake/columbia from lewiston, idaho. now that would be pretty interesting. peace.

wow, that's kinda fucked up. i've never even thought about a buddy suing me over getting injured on my wall. i guess that's because my buddies are generally not scum sucking assholes. and if someone did, i'd make sure they went to the hospital for more than just climbing injuries and agree with the previous post - a 20 degree and 45 degree overhang is a good setup. i just have 45 degrees overhanging and vertical section right now, but plan to hook up a 20 degree overhanging wall at some point. futon mattresses = good!

quote: Originally posted by crazyjz: Offwidth:The MAIN problem with desalinization, is that it takes ALOT of POWER! shitty. yeah, now that i think about it, i remember mass quantities of energy being a major component of desalinization. it still pisses me off that conservation sucks in places like LA, vegas and phoenix when their consumption is clearly the problem. like i said, when a good ol' "energy crisis" comes around, people should not be allowed to light car dealerships and parking lots all night and run their fountains. there should also be zeroscaping ordinances and laws. hell, if it wasn't for mullholland, LA would have never had the water to viably pass what, 50,000 people?

dude, all i got to ask is that during last winter's "horrendous power crisis" in california, what were the chances that if you drove 30 miles around in any mjor metropolitan area that you would see at least 20 car dealerships with many bright lights shinning, or mall parking lots lit up like the 4th of july. what about thousands of water fountains wasting electricity. or how about hundreds or thousands of green, grassy lawns using electrically driven irrigation systems, as well as precious water. my guess is that you'd have seen a ton of this shit, non of which is environmentally friendly, nor favorable to southwest environments, especially in drought situations. anyway, yes, the US should not use nimby campaigns to push pollution into other countries, but seriously, much of the middle east uses desalinization technology - why can't we use this same technology on the west coast of the US? sure, it costs some money, but probably not as much as it would the government to support water pipelines and irrigation ditches over the years. and yes, nut up you people and limit your water consumption if you're part of the problem. peace.

quote: Originally posted by Paul detrick: nicely said from someone NOT from eastern washington. i may not be from eastern washington, but i grew up on the dry sagebrush steppe of southern idaho and have lived on the sonoran desert in phoenix, arizona. does that qualify me to talk about the absurdity of the columbia basin project? and trust me, the absurdity goes far beyond just building the dam. the politics behind that project are/were pretty *interesting* for anyone interested a good read on the matter is "a river lost - the life and death of the columbia" by blaine harden. peace.

quote: Originally posted by Paul detrick: It rains 7 inchs a year at this shithole, but we have lots of water for crops, because someone had the forsight to build a big dan that nobody wanted. Now we grow more crops than most states, and the project is not complete. if those jackasses really had foresight, they'd have realized central washington (and the entire great basin for that matter) is just a giant fucking dustbowl sagebrush scrubland, prone to droughts and not worth the fucking effort. i could quote plenty of sources tearing the columbia basin irrigation project a new one, including scientists and the colville tribe, who probably got fucked more than anyone by the dam(s) (with the exception of salmon). and plenty of people still don't want that dam, or any of the other snake/columbia dams. i'm not saying that we should tear it/them out or that this will bring back the salmon and restore the ecosystems (which it may not). i'm just saying that "foresight" is not the appropriate term for the decision to tame the columbia/snake river systems. with regards to power, flood control and irrigation, the USA and northwest would do just fine without them (except for those farmers who've been hooked up by the feds because of the dams). peace.

quote: Originally posted by Szyjakowski: I love to crimp don't get me wrong...I guess what I should have said is why give all the publicity to those crimpy one, two, ten move wonders dude, get with it. crimps are out. it's all about the slopers! and sorry to burst your bubble, but bouldering IS real climbing, just like aid, ice, trad, mixed and sport. just because it's not your favorite discipline doesn't mean it's not REAL climbing. hate the hype all you want, but take it away and bouldering still equates to people getting on the rocks and having fun. climb on.

just read the sad news in two different spots. the man, the legend, the king of el cap is gone. here's to batso and his inspiration cheers.

dru makes a good point. it all depends on the landing surface and surrounding areas. sure, if your new boulder problem/area is gonna result in the trampling of fragile alpine meadows that will take hundreds of years to recover, maybe you should just boulder somewhere else. however, it the landings/area are all gravel/dirt/rocks, fucking go for it. just pack yer shit out and keep it clean. peace out.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Hey when you hike up Snow Creek from the road, on the right hand side of the trail, after about an hour, there is a big granite face, does anyone think that has ever been climbed ? now that's funny! here here!

nice job fellas! here's a to you.

smart muscles part II, from the March issue http://www.rockandice.com/index.phtml?section=performance_show&content_id=182 is what has started helping me. this section shows lifting to balance oppositional muscles for injury reduction. i've already noticed some improvement in elbow tendonitis and with my shoulder. peace.

quote: Originally posted by vegetablebelay: Man, that is some lame-ass backpedaling. nah, just jokin' around. if cpt. caveman would like to kill me too, i'd be honored...

quote: Originally posted by chucK: Hey Caveman!!! Hear that! He called you lame! You should put OWclimer on yer list too [ 02-22-2002: Message edited by: chucK ] nah, i nominated cpt. caveman as king of the cascadesprayers so it cancels out that statement.

so if it's already been done, screw off, i missed it... i would like to open nominations for the cascadeclimber of the year and the cascadesprayer of the year. ahem... my nominations for cascadeclimber of the year go to RETROSAURUS & MATTP. One of Retrosaurus' most recent posts, after a well deserved hiatus, sums his case up: "A year and a half ago I fell off of Mount Stuart while holding on to a piece of granite roughly the size of a Volkswagen. Rock and I fell free for about 20 feet before impacting a steep snowslope. The fall continued for about another 80 feet. Cartwheeling, rock, rope, ice ax, snow. The two pieces of gear on the rope did nothing to arrest the fall. After I self arrested with my hands and feet, I found that the rope had been chopped, pressure melted three feet from my bowline-on-a-coil tie in. Ripped the tips off of every digit, abraded the right side of my face, dislocated my left thumb, severly bruised left thigh from butt cheek to knee, and crushed the lateral aspect of my left talus (the bone that forms the lower half of the ankle's joint surface). There were no pieces of bone large enough to fix in place surgically. So I was casted for about six months while all the crumbs found a home." now that's fierce! glad to hear Retro came away in seemingly one piece, and best wishes for the fullest recovery possible. besides surviving a wicked "act of god", retrosaurus is a prized cc.com member who expounds valued truths and insights, and can get a little fiesty from time to time. mattp, my other nominee is an effortlessly cool, well-deserved, alpine buddy. besides belaying my bitch ass up squire creek wall once upon a time, mattp is a well versed, educated, highly admirable guru of climbing and backcountry skiing. the man is hell on skiis and rope. he excells at long alpine rock routes, and from what i can tell, impressive ski tours and descents. mattp has long since provided a strong, analytical voice of reason, experience and truth on this board. he seemingly knows all when someone posts a question about a peak or range and is more than happy to share beta or whatever is asked of him. he has also aggresively helped fight for approach/access in the darrington area and has done much trail taming and first ascents. mattp is a first rate hell of a guy that anyone would be priviledged to share a rope with. here's to retrosaurus & mattp as my nominees for cascadeclimbers of the years. and now on to my nominations for cascadesprayer of the year. this is a difficult one, but it's a tie in my books between DRU and CPT. CAVEMAN. both these elusive, tricky fellows are capable of dropping the most venomous or humourous spray at any moment, potent enough to drop the most accomplished cascadeclimber dead in their tracks. dru, king of peak trivia and witty, obscure spray is a posting king of cascadeclimber fame, and able to respond to any post or spray at a moment's notice. aside from his spray, dru seems to reveal plenty of beta, humor and interesting stories. he is also a wealth of knowledge about climbing in the PNW. cheers. cpt. caveman is one of a kind. from his desire to kill lambone (c'mon cpt - you can't be a good cascadesprayer of the year from prison) to his biting sarcasm and straight-forward spray at anytime, anyplace, the caveman has secured a right in my books as one of the most intriguing, laughable, scary spraylords of this forum. go cpt. caveman, go! just don't kill lambone, please... that would kill (no pun intended) a large amount of your spray subject material. congrats to the nominees. may a happy, frosty king cobra greet you and cheer you on to victory. spray on!

dude, all the immunity you need in a stop like bovill or clarkia, regardless of your agenda/beliefts, is a resounding "hey, how about a round of drinks on me!" in this case, survivor idaho is really only limited to those with a bank account too small to buy a couple rounds of local suds (10 people @ $0.50 - $1.25 a beer). besides, most backwoods idaho hicks are too involved in the to notice even a nuclear warhead cruising by on hwy 95 or 55. peace.

dude, i don't really give a shit either, but i'll laugh at the outcome all the same. seriously, those who maintain a number of different avatars are lame. spray under one name or don't spray at all! fuck...

did someone say crack?

donde esta el spray?

did someone say beer drinking?

where's the spray?!?!? still at the pub club? peace.

quote: Originally posted by Doug:

unfortunately, i'll be sitting here at home in cd'a wishing i were buying pitchers and spraying with you all. happy pub club!

more spray!!! the tooth is choss. the puget sound is too wet! long live the eastside spray, spray, spray

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Shut up spray wanna be bitches now that's the spirit of spray! fuck you too