Bob_Clarke

For what it's worth - I worked on this missile defense system and intimately know how it works, the real success rates, specs, blah blah blah. Also the "beam" technology that has been mentioned is a VERY real thing being developed (successfully I may add) and if you guys wish to have a conversation off line I would be happy to do that. Obviouly proprietary information act prohibits me from detailing or discussing this in an open forum. Notice that the change in government has escalated the defense missile process - it's been in development for some time.

- Allison my 2 cents. It would be irresponsible for me not to wear leather gloves during rappelling or belaying. I have more control, no slippage (wtf is that term?) and beter protection from scraping my hands.

The most fun - climbing in Peru, there was a group of four British climbers (2 guys, 2 girls) following the same itinerary as me and my partner. So we hooked up to share burro, and cook costs and I thought that both couples were hooked up. Well, one of the girls just happen to be trekking/traveling with them and following up the walk up peaks. So while waiting to take our turn on Alpamayo (at high camp 17,000') she jumped in my tent to share a custard dessert I was grubbing. Before I knew it we were zipping up the tent fly, spreading out the sleeping bags and going for it. Rolly polly at 17' wahoo -

What happened to the Baby Rocco pics, they were stupidly funny? Has it been censored? Are you just a big puss? WTF?

I did run through the woods today. Great temperature! see you tomorrow!

TLG - I saw you today

Bombs of mass destruction Chemical warfare High Altitude Nuclear defense missile (I worked on that one) Shoe Bomber

TLG = Voyeur

RuMR - absolutely wouldn't miss it. tlg - RuMR is Da Man. And what is so funny??????????? hehehe

What the hell does a hard pull'n, fudge pack'n, nerves of steel, beoytch want to know about ice screws? It's like this, when your hands are frozen and your brow is sweating because you can't see your last screw - I'm just happy that thing doesn't fall out of my hand getting it started let alone the freaking angle. As in life, bury it to the hilt baby or tie it off.

Stating the reasoning behind the choices is a good idea. *The 3rd, 4th, or 5th pitch of Deidre - Some of the best sustained laybacking for a 5.7 *The 5th pitch of Chianti Spire - This pitch has is all, steep solid hand jambs - off hands - finger locks - and wild fists to off width pumping jams. *The 6th pitch of Dreamer - good variety of layback movements - bold committing movements - good footwork rewards the climber *The 3rd pitch of White Satin - Surprising gem of a pitch at Smith, awesome hand jambs with good pro - exciting finish *The "Pressure Chamber" pitch of Hyperspace - BODY TENSION *Pipeline (enough said) - well, enough said *Paper Tiger - Another Smith Rock old skool classic - solid rock - good pro - bring your "A" game or don't bother

I'd have to agree with The Split Pillar - Le Pillar de touche Here are a few others to mull over -The 3rd, 4th, or 5th pitch of Deidre -The 5th pitch of Chianti Spire -The 6th pitch of Dreamer -The 3rd pitch of White Satin -The "Pressure Chamber" pitch of Hyperspace -Pipeline (enough said)

Moderate = 5.11a and under

I climb on 9.6mm x 60m - it's not on your list.

The comment about Exasperator brings to mind a question. What is the best moderate crack pitch in the PNW?

One helps the other and the other helps the one. It's all good.

Q: Why don’t witches wear underwear? A: So they can get a better grip on the broom.

Q: How d’ya know if you’re well-hung? A: You can carry two pots of coffee and a dozen doughnuts.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: do eat salt off roads?

quote: Originally posted by allison: So you, the taxpayers of Washington have consistently voted to lower your taxes, and now you bitch that the gov't is saving money by salting the roads! Perhaps you should have thought of that before you voted to lower your taxes. Washington isd now ranked 49th out of 50 states in per capita $ for roads. What she said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quit yer bitchin and vote. Vote with your head, not the cheap ass pocket book.

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quote: Originally posted by jules: I love REI. - Julie Poland REI Market Planner Colorado, Intermountain, SoCal/Ariz Markets 253-437-7216 jpoland@rei.com I love Jules -Ropegun 2002 (closet REI lurker) Oh yeah - Seattle is the best place to live. [ 11-19-2002, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: Ropegun2002 ]

Mt Pugh in winter is pretty good. Has anyone heard or know of anyone doing North Face of Vesper in winter?

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: EVEN I THINK THAT IS SEXY gives us all something to aspire to ( me,as if ) Girl on Girl - gotta love that! Yo - my first page top! I saw the Stallone movie 2 days after coming home from the summit of Deniali - It freaked me out when Scott Franklin's wife (I forget her name off-hand) took that huge whipper in the opening scene. [ 11-14-2002, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: Ropegun2002 ]

aaakkk - that was gross. I think I need a shower. Thank god I don't have any sound, I don't want to think what was said.